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What is your personal head canon?

From ST09 onward is when Trek moved away from Roddenberry Trek. From this point forward" Gene' s Vision " was no longer a guiding factor.
I'd say that happened at around TWOK or DS9, personally. Heck, you could even make a case that TOS moved away from "Gene's Vision" once he was no longer the day to day showrunner. Roddenberry apparently wasn't much a fan of the humor Gene Coon injected into the series, even though it was a better show for it.
 
You only need the see the tonal and story shift between TNG seasons 1 and 3 to see exactly when Gene's way of doing things had ended.

I don't necessary think doing things Gene's way and respecting his overall vision are synonymous. I agree there was that shift. I still think Gene's influence can still be seen through the rest of the Berman era. A student, chef, or artist can do their own thing while still retaining the influence of their teacher.

Gene Roddenberry created Star Trek and, for better or worse, had direct influence on the majority of the people connected to the franchise through the end of Voyager. That is no longer the case and the current creators now have a greater degree of separation. Unlike the entire Berman era, I don't believe there is any direct continuity of production. There was no handing of the baton from Berman to Abrams to Kurtzman. At least, to my understanding.
 
I'm going to ignore what DIS S3 showed us (or at least pretend that it was an artefact of Discovery's weird one-off hybrid 23rd century/32nd century hardware) and say that detached nacelles in the 32nd century make perfect sense, if we assume that they are self-contained warp drive units with their own integrated fuel supply and warp cores. When 32nd century ships go to warp the nacelles are generating the warp field and the otherwise independent ship proper is just coasting along in their warp bubble. In the event of another Burn the nacelles would be destroyed but the main body of the ship, and therefore its crew, would survive. This also ties in to Matt Jefferies' original concept that warp nacelles were fully self-contained engine units separated from the main body of the ship because they were powerful and hazardous for the crew to interact with directly.
 
I'm going to ignore what DIS S3 showed us (or at least pretend that it was an artefact of Discovery's weird one-off hybrid 23rd century/32nd century hardware) and say that detached nacelles in the 32nd century make perfect sense, if we assume that they are self-contained warp drive units with their own integrated fuel supply and warp cores. When 32nd century ships go to warp the nacelles are generating the warp field and the otherwise independent ship proper is just coasting along in their warp bubble. In the event of another Burn the nacelles would be destroyed but the main body of the ship, and therefore its crew, would survive. This also ties in to Matt Jefferies' original concept that warp nacelles were fully self-contained engine units separated from the main body of the ship because they were powerful and hazardous for the crew to interact with directly.
Let's say you solved for "The Burn" situation now that everybody knows about it and knows how to defend against it.

If every piece of your ship is fully independent with it's own reactors, shield system, fuel, etc.

Your ship can be that much more powerful.

More Reactor = More Shield/Weapon/Sensor Power output.

Destroying a Warp Nacelle won't cripple your vessel.

Just having an ally bring you a matching Warp Nacelle can make pairing the new Warp Nacelle as fast as pairing a Modern Day Blue Tooth Headset.
 
It is difficult to pin down when Trek moved away from Gene's vision when Gene's vision changed so dramatically over the years, and when much of what he said about his own vision was hindsight bullshit as well. Much of what he opined about TOS in his later years had nothing to do with what TOS actually was.

The Gene Roddenberry of TOS, TMP, and TNG are three distinctly different visions of what Trek is and should be.
 
I'd argue that Section 31's existence is a good thing in the franchise, both in universe and for stories. It challenges those ideals of the Federation. Ideals don't mean as much if they are never challenged. ("It's easy to be a saint in paradise." Thank you, Benjamin Sisko.)

Section 31 was best used in DS9 and in ENT. The Kurtzman era has done a terrible job with them, and I'd be happy if they never bother using them again.
 
I'd argue that Section 31's existence is a good thing in the franchise, both in universe and for stories. It challenges those ideals of the Federation. Ideals don't mean as much if they are never challenged. ("It's easy to be a saint in paradise." Thank you, Benjamin Sisko.)

Section 31 was best used in DS9 and in ENT. The Kurtzman era has done a terrible job with them, and I'd be happy if they never bother using them again.

I was referring to the TV movie.

As for the concept of Section 31 itself, honestly it's quite absurd when you really break it down. The reason why it worked so well in DS9 was because you never knew if it was an actual thing, or if Sloan was just trying to fuck with everyone. But once they decided, yes, it was a thing, then it just became a silly trope and has gotten worse with each new iteration.
 
It is difficult to pin down when Trek moved away from Gene's vision when Gene's vision changed so dramatically over the years, and when much of what he said about his own vision was hindsight bullshit as well. Much of what he opined about TOS in his later years had nothing to do with what TOS actually was.

The Gene Roddenberry of TOS, TMP, and TNG are three distinctly different visions of what Trek is and should be.

I'm just throwing this out there, but Gene's vision probably started changing right around the time he started pre-production on "Phase II".
It's a decade removed from TOS, and the episodes being (re)written in preparation of the new series, are going to reflect 1970's attitudes.
I would also speculate that portions of Gene's TNG are in response to the more overt tonal shift from TMP to military look and feel of The Wrath of Khan.
 
As for the concept of Section 31 itself, honestly it's quite absurd when you really break it down. The reason why it worked so well in DS9 was because you never knew if it was an actual thing, or if Sloan was just trying to fuck with everyone. But once they decided, yes, it was a thing, then it just became a silly trope and has gotten worse with each new iteration.

Even in DS9 it gets ridiculous very quickly. It starts out as counterintelligence/internal security, then foreign political operation, then some kind of WMD skunkworks (which it would have had to have been before it was the other things given the timeline of Odo’s infection). These are all very different things without a lot of transferrable expertise! I’ve seen people lament how Trek’s lost any knowledge of how a military organization actually works, but they’ve never been good with intelligence.

It’s not usually an issue because Trek isn’t usually focused on that, but it’s bad because Trek usually falls back on clichés—not just Trek clichés but genre clichés and Hollywood clichés in general—and calls it a day, while a better understanding of intelligence probably would result in richer storytelling rather than more limited storytelling.

Plus there’s something really juvenile about having a “bad stuff” division. Lots of intelligence work doesn’t even register as unethical. Few people actually thinks about their job that way. When we get into unpleasant choices it’s often because there’s a worthwhile trade-off, which is the subject of a lot of good drama. Often things go wrong because of broader institutional failure rather than outright evil, which is also good drama but means you have to write people working for an institution which is just not how current genre writers seem to think (you’re either a lone wolf or a part of a small band of superheroes/rebels/outcasts who live in a world that’s an extension of their inner emotional life, not someone working in an organization with larger goals that intersect with your own).

Edit: So I guess my head canon as far as §31 is concerned is that the DS9 incarnation is really a relatively small “meeting group” of a few people in parts of Starfleet and the Federation’s security apparatus, plus a few veterans operating outside, who use their influence to head towards a set of common goals, but nothing official (but tolerated due to the paranoia and strain of the Dominion War) and most of their capabilities come from misallocating legitimately-appropriated resources. Maybe it’s named after a 22nd-century agency, but there’s no continuous history and there’s no way it stays secret for long, probably collapsing over its own weight after the Dominion War (I’d bet it’s like the “Conspiracy” parasites, where we follow our main crew but, per “The Drumhead,” other people are also on the trail off-screen). There’s no way it stays secret for centuries, particularly if it’s a large concern. I’m not certainly going to be rewatching or watching other stuff involving §31 so I’m not really worried about reconciling my headcanon with actual canon here.
 
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