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What is your biggest gripe about fan films.

To me the entire thing seemed like it was written just to have a gay relationship and there was the guy disregarded his beliefs to suddenly be gay. It seemed forced to me.

Which is why I quit watching it..Why did they have to go that route and risk some viewer losses. Throw in something gay and I'm out and bunch of others too..that junk does not belong in any Trek product.
 
To me the entire thing seemed like it was written just to have a gay relationship and there was the guy disregarded his beliefs to suddenly be gay. It seemed forced to me.

Which is why I quit watching it..Why did they have to go that route and risk some viewer losses. Throw in something gay and I'm out and bunch of others too..that junk does not belong in any Trek product.

Nothing to do with gay or straight to me. It didn't ever seem like a real relationship.
 
^ I had the same impression when I watched those episodes, but I suspect that it would have seemed more authentic if both the story been written by professionals and the characters had been portrayed by professionals. I'm not knocking the folks behind Hidden Frontier. I'm just saying that the relationship story was fairly complex material for a fan series to pull off.
 
I didn't liked the Ro/Aster relationship because the actors didn't have any chemistry. They've done much better since then.


To me the entire thing seemed like it was written just to have a gay relationship and there was the guy disregarded his beliefs to suddenly be gay. It seemed forced to me.

Which is why I quit watching it..Why did they have to go that route and risk some viewer losses. Throw in something gay and I'm out and bunch of others too..that junk does not belong in any Trek product.

Neither does bigotry. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
 
^ I had the same impression when I watched those episodes, but I suspect that it would have seemed more authentic if both the story been written by professionals and the characters had been portrayed by professionals. I'm not knocking the folks behind Hidden Frontier. I'm just saying that the relationship story was fairly complex material for a fan series to pull off.

I also didn't like the way it was written. The relationship between Cory and Dow(sp?) seemed more realistic.
 
^ I had the same impression when I watched those episodes, but I suspect that it would have seemed more authentic if both the story been written by professionals and the characters had been portrayed by professionals. I'm not knocking the folks behind Hidden Frontier. I'm just saying that the relationship story was fairly complex material for a fan series to pull off.

I also didn't like the way it was written. The relationship between Cory and Dow(sp?) seemed more realistic.

The relationship between Peter and Alex in "Blood and Fire" seems much more naturalistic than any of the relationships on Hidden Frontier. I suppose because HF seems to have a more melodramatic bent to their relationships. Nevertheless, you have to admire the ambition of the HF folks.

In any case, I continue to enjoy their productions especially Odyssey.
 
I didn't liked the Ro/Aster relationship because the actors didn't have any chemistry. They've done much better since then.


To me the entire thing seemed like it was written just to have a gay relationship and there was the guy disregarded his beliefs to suddenly be gay. It seemed forced to me.

Which is why I quit watching it..Why did they have to go that route and risk some viewer losses. Throw in something gay and I'm out and bunch of others too..that junk does not belong in any Trek product.

Neither does bigotry. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Oh I won't, don't want anything else hitting me back there either !
 
I gotta tell ya, I give fan productions a break. However, the level of expectation depends on where the “show” is. For example, the new Voyages/Phase II group is the one Paramount allows the use of the Star Trek name. NV/P2 raised the bar, so it’s on them to keep the standards they set. For the most part, they have. The stories have gotten more streamlined and less “kitchen sink.” I don't see the need to tie in aspects of Trek lore as much as I would rather see something that would likely be seen in an actual episode. So, since the original show didn't do a lot of inner references to one-off characters, I prefer the same thing with fan films. This might be seen as limiting, but I think it forces writers to create more original characters and settings.

Exeter would be in the same league if they had the resources to complete episodes more quickly. They’re an amazing group and it sucks they are sidelined by time, money and God.

The smaller scale ones are honestly just fans making a story based on their favorite show. 99% of these folks don’t have any acting experience. Some may have natural talent that’s pretty painless to watch, but on the whole, professional actors work in the business and get paid.

Are you reading my mind or something? That perfectly represents my views on fan films. As I'm fonding of saying, what they lack in art is more than surpassed with heart.:techman:
 
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What's there to "approve" of? Who are any of us to sit in judgment of anyone else?

You've made your point clear, via ignorant intolerance and glib evasions. Tell me, is it more important that you broadcast your hatred about gay relationships -- fictional or real -- or is the matter of import your continued efforts to respond to those of us who, you know, accept same?
 
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