With the "revolving door" crew manifest we see in TOS, I can't see it as a stretch.
What is THE Worst continuity error in Trek history..?!
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At the risk of putting too fine a point on it, I don't care one way or the other.
I was just offering a possible explanation to your question.
Thank you for offering that possible explanation, 1001001, and I now recognize that you did indeed say earlier that you are not caught up in the 'debate' on the subject. I guess I was 'talking past you' at the folks who strongly believe that Chekov can not have been on Enterprise during Space Seed, but my quoting of your post in my response did seem to be dismissive/unappreciative of your contribution to the discussion. Anyway, Ho Ho Ho!
Yes, too good of shape. I know this is scifi, but l felt that the writers may have stretched credibility by making the centenarians, Kor, Koloth, and Kang as incredibly robust and combat-able as each one of them were.
I wonder if the writers, when they wrote "Blood Oath", intended to create new canon regarding Klingon lifespans (150+ years); but more importantly that Klingons, even at the end of their natural born lives, were still extremely vigorous, robust, and capable of handling a bat'leth. Where were all the other TOS Klingons, who didn't die in battle, during the TNG/DS9 era? Would it mean that Worf and his generation of Klingons would still be fighting ably during the next next next generation?
The new canon now had to fit the story that they wrote.
Maybe they were selected for a stint on one of these sleeper ship "secret missions" depicted in The Emissary? That could win us a few decades for them.
The whole Rite of Succession song and dance dropped off the radar in DS9. Maybe I'm missing some arcane point were it doesn't apply at Gowron's death or maybe Gowron binned the whole system.
Gowron was killed in combat by someone that challenged his authority to rule. You challenge the Supreme Commander, you win, you get the job. K'Mpec died unchallenged. Therefore there was a need to challenge among those that wanted the job. Gowron won by default, and got the job.
I know, I know, DS9 went exclusively with the Chancellor title. The writers felt that was the way to show continuity between STVI and the TNG era. Gowron still challenged for the Supreme Commander job.
I know, I know, DS9 went exclusively with the Chancellor title. The writers felt that was the way to show continuity between STVI and the TNG era. Gowron still challenged for the Supreme Commander job.
Sure, sure. But why didn't someone challenge K'Mpec then? He was elderly and unfit. I know he united the Empire and was respected, but surely there's no shortage of ambitious and fit youngsters would be game for the job and could take K'Mpec at a canter? Why didn't Duras just knife the guy and get crowned? He apparently had the backing at that point.
It's only speculation, but K'Mpec was old and had ruled the Empire for decades. By that time he may well have become very canny and had recruited others to fight for him. It may also be that it's considered dishonorable for someone as young as Gowron or Duras to challenge a respected elder like K'Mpec for a position that the elder in question can still do well, like govern the Empire. Which K'Mpec could obviously still do.
And Duras poisoned him like a coward, anyway.
And Duras poisoned him like a coward, anyway.
Well, try to treat Star Trek like history, including Khan and Chekov.
Suppose that Explorer A rescues survivors from wrecked ship B including former Captain C, who had been stranded on an island for ten years. Former Captain C later leads a mutiny on Explorer A's ship. Explorer A strands former Captain C on island D as punishment. Explorer A returns home and pays off his crew. After 2 years his backers get him to make another trip to explore farther. He recruits some of his previous crew and some new crew members and sails back to the region he previously visited to explore farther. One of the new crew members is Mister E. After returning home Mister E. writes an account of the voyage based on his journal. He tells how when the ship stopped at Island D he went ashore with another crew member, Ship's Boy F. They looked around and met a strange man. Ship's Boy F and the stranger recognized each other. The stranger was former Captain C, who begged them to take him off Island D.
Suppose that a historian can't find any mentioned of Ship's Boy F as a crew member on Explorer A's first trip. Will he assume that Ship's Boy F could not have been on Explorer A's first trip and so former Captain C must have known Ship's Boy F more than 12 years earlier and recognized him, or will he assume that Ship's Boy F was on the previous trip 2 years earlier and was not mentioned in any accounts of the trip?
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I figure there are several hundred people on board the ship and we only see a handful aside from the corridor walkbys. It takes a while to earn a position on the bridge and Chekov was assigned to a off camera position not involved in the episodes to date.
I don't think a bridge position is something you "earn". If you train in helm and navigation you get to serve on the bridge. It's your job.
We see several navigators in season one. Even the one offs are probably on the ship for the entire run of the show, even if we never see them again. They may be second or third shift navigators. Chekov might have been on the second or third shifts in Season One or simply not on duty in the Season One adventures we see. The 29 hours we see can't possibly cover all the activity aboard the Enterprise over the course of a year.
There's probably a little navigators room were all the navigators hang and calibrate the sensors. Like an early ancestor of the astrometrics lab. There's a sensors maintenance room where Geordi and Worf hung out in the first season of TNG. Chekov may have earned his spurs there.
He may have been old and not in his physical prime, and perhaps he would have lost a bat'leth duel to someone younger and fitter. But presumably, he was a very intelligent leader and knew how to run the Empire. Even if some young buck did kill K'mpec in honourable combat and ascended to Chancellor, all it would take is one screw up in running the government and then someone else would be all "damn it, K'mpec would have had this licked. I'm sick of this honourless petaq, get me my bat'leth, I'm making a run for the job."
Because Duras is an honourless petaq.
When we first see Chekov, he had only recently been brought up from engineering (like Reilly was).
Chekov was very busy on the ship in Season 1...cleaning the bathrooms, working in the galley, even running the bowling alley....
He was?
Chekov Prime had no engineering experience, but rather security/tactical with some science experience too.
Coming back to this, I wonder what would have happened if the parts of Chekov and Sulu had been exchanged in TWOK, with very little re-working of the script?
Have Sulu as the First Officer of the Reliant.
Have Chekov at the helm of the Enterprise for the little training cruise (I'm sure Chekov could have handled the helm).
Can anyone see any reason this wouldn't have worked?
This goes for most of the characters. Doctor McCoy could have been aboard the Enterprise during WNMHGB, junior physician behind Doctor Piper.
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