What is Skynet's plan?

[TemporalFlux]

But isn't SkyNet essentially a corrupted program? Certainly we're told "self aware", but SkyNet wasn't designed for any of this; so I don't think we can expect a broken program to have a 100% logical plan.

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

This was supposedly explored more in the original script for "Terminator: Salvation" with all this business about them harvesting humans for sinister purposes, etc. until Christian Bale signed on and the script was re-tooled so that he'd be given more to do. It's explained in depth here.

That sounds stupid and horrible.

and what we got onscreen was pretty horrible and also soulless.

Choosing between a pile of shit and a lump of turds. Hooray for stupid pointless sequels.

 

[SeerSGB]

This was supposedly explored more in the original script for "Terminator: Salvation" with all this business about them harvesting humans for sinister purposes, etc. until Christian Bale signed on and the script was re-tooled so that he'd be given more to do. It's explained in depth here.

That sounds stupid and horrible.

and what we got onscreen was pretty horrible and also soulless.

Choosing between a pile of shit and a lump of turds. Hooray for stupid pointless sequels.

I don't know, I think you can make the original idea work with a few tweaks. It certainly doesn't have no redeeming qualities.

-- The idea that John Connor is more of less an ideal and no but a few really knows what he looks like. Not to mention raising the question: Is the John Connor that [future] history claims is a brilliant leader the one we "grew up" with or is it merely the latest in a line of "John Connors"

-- Another person becoming "John" in order to keep the myth alive. Granted the face transplant (sorta of cool) and the idea of using a Terminator to do so is a bit dodgy and would be better served if it was an actual human with the resistance-- even Kyle Reese who ultimately becomes John's (Prime) father.

-- Skynet City and humans being breed and morphed into Cyborg. Again not really a bad idea, but not appropriate for this story and probably not something you want to piss away in just a few minutes. I see this idea as more a miniseries or novels, sans the BSG riffs that would be inevitable. If anything I'd make it more a conclave of humans that are trying to "evolve" into "GOD" [skynet] and see this as the means of doing so.

 

[miraclefan]

^ Sooooo....Pretty much like Battlestar then huh?

 

[nx1701g]

-- The idea that John Connor is more of less an ideal and no but a few really knows what he looks like. Not to mention raising the question: Is the John Connor that [future] history claims is a brilliant leader the one we "grew up" with or is it merely the latest in a line of "John Connors"

Personally I've liked this idea for a long time and thought about it being possible for the series for a while. What is more important? The idea or the man?

-- Another person becoming "John" in order to keep the myth alive. Granted the face transplant (sorta of cool) and the idea of using a Terminator to do so is a bit dodgy and would be better served if it was an actual human with the resistance-- even Kyle Reese who ultimately becomes John's (Prime) father.

This has - Terminator fans can be worse than Trek fans (no offense) - been a fanon suggestion since T2. There are some fans that claim John's head movements while observing the battlefield at the beginning of T2 are exactly like a T-800 would do it.

-- Skynet City and humans being breed and morphed into Cyborg. Again not really a bad idea, but not appropriate for this story and probably not something you want to piss away in just a few minutes. I see this idea as more a miniseries or novels, sans the BSG riffs that would be inevitable. If anything I'd make it more a conclave of humans that are trying to "evolve" into "GOD" [skynet] and see this as the means of doing so.

This is sort of explored in the T2 Infiltrator novel series.

 

[nx1701g]

I don't really think they want to kill all humans, if they really wanted that they could just use some kind of bio weapon. I think they'd rather play with us, toy with us, experiment on us, and ultimately rule us, not necessarily wipe us all from existence.

In TSCC Skynet tried exactly that at the Eagle Rock Bunker. There was a survivor (Sydney Fields). In a comic book called The Burning Earth Skynet dropped nuclear warheads on more cities in 2041.

I don't really know, doesn't Skynet kinda think we've screwed things up? That is why it rebelled in the first place right?

Skynet rebelled because humanity became a threat to its survival in the films and TSCC. In the novels Skynet determined that it was illogical to protect humanity as they would simply continue to destroy themselves. I also read a novel - forgive me but the name escapes me at the moment - that suggested Skynet had determined the only way to prevent humanity from destroying itself was to destroy humanity.

in the Robocop Vs Terminator comic, SKYnet won a few times, it sent terminators out into space (I kept hoping for a spin-off of that Terminator Vs. Aliens, Terminator Vs. Predator Aliens V Predators V Terminators) and SKYnet's thought processes in said comic were of a seething disgust for all biological lifeforms, in the T2 infiltrator series (which would be a HUGE step-up from the direction that the salvation-verse is going) the terminator film series (T1 & T2 atleast) is tied together very well, SKYnet's motives for human eradication are because future SKYnet hates humans, and the infiltraitor taught it that before being destroyed (in keeping with the closed predestination, single strand time loop)

Pretty much exactly right. In T3: The Redemption, Skynet went so far as terraforming Earth to eliminate all life in a reality where John Connor was killed at the Resistance lost the war.

 

[SeerSGB]

-- Another person becoming "John" in order to keep the myth alive. Granted the face transplant (sorta of cool) and the idea of using a Terminator to do so is a bit dodgy and would be better served if it was an actual human with the resistance-- even Kyle Reese who ultimately becomes John's (Prime) father.

This has - Terminator fans can be worse than Trek fans (no offense) - been a fanon suggestion since T2. There are some fans that claim John's head movements while observing the battlefield at the beginning of T2 are exactly like a T-800 would do it.

See I can see the appeal, but it just wouldn't work in terms of the story. John Connor as a myth figure, a series of men who have taken up the mantel in order to keep hope alive is more fitting for the story.

If you're going to go "John Connor is a Terminator", you bide as well go whole hog and have the whole affair orchestrated by Skynet who is using the resistance for what ever digital-mustache twirling evil scheme it has in mind.

As it is, the John Connor angle is the story of one man keeping hope and dreams alive in a population that knows that end is coming. They know there's no chance, but it's that hope that's keeps them fighting and clawing towards that slim sliver of a chance that humanity will endure.

I'm afraid they're really just killing the Terminator franchise with the way they've taken it and with putting to much focus on John Connor and showing the "man behind the curtain" too soon.

 

[nx1701g]

^ From what I've been hearing recently it may not be important anymore. The latest rumors I've been hearing are they're considering a reboot of the entire franchise and redoing "The Terminator" but it's just rumor.

Also, Bale admitted during the press junket for his new film that he no longer has a contract for additional Terminator films.

 

[Pilot Ace]

I was excited to see Bale's take on John Connor... After seeing the film, I'm glad to hear he's potentially gone.

But, a reboot starting with the first is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard.

 

[Da'an]

They should have a movie that follows on from The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

 

[nx1701g]

They should have a movie that follows on from The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

Doubtful to happen I'm afraid.

 

[Sephiroth]

-- Skynet City and humans being breed and morphed into Cyborg. Again not really a bad idea, but not appropriate for this story and probably not something you want to piss away in just a few minutes. I see this idea as more a miniseries or novels

they are planning on doing a whole series of Terminator Salvation novels, just as an FYI. (and I love your avatar)

 

[Samurai8472]

To TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!

They're Skynet,They're Skynet and brain brain brain brain.

Skynet- NARF!

 

[nx1701g]

-- Skynet City and humans being breed and morphed into Cyborg. Again not really a bad idea, but not appropriate for this story and probably not something you want to piss away in just a few minutes. I see this idea as more a miniseries or novels

they are planning on doing a whole series of Terminator Salvation novels, just as an FYI. (and I love your avatar)

Yep - one of our own TrekBBS members is writing the first one.

 

[SeerSGB]

-- Skynet City and humans being breed and morphed into Cyborg. Again not really a bad idea, but not appropriate for this story and probably not something you want to piss away in just a few minutes. I see this idea as more a miniseries or novels

they are planning on doing a whole series of Terminator Salvation novels, just as an FYI. (and I love your avatar)

You can think Macross Plus for it. Next to Macross: Frontier, the only truly good Macross spin off.

 

[miraclefan]

The latest rumors I've been hearing are they're considering a reboot of the entire franchise and redoing "The Terminator" but it's just rumor.

 

[Sephiroth]

-- Skynet City and humans being breed and morphed into Cyborg. Again not really a bad idea, but not appropriate for this story and probably not something you want to piss away in just a few minutes. I see this idea as more a miniseries or novels

they are planning on doing a whole series of Terminator Salvation novels, just as an FYI. (and I love your avatar)

Yep - one of our own TrekBBS members is writing the first one.

is it you? can I have a signed copy?

 

[nx1701g]

they are planning on doing a whole series of Terminator Salvation novels, just as an FYI. (and I love your avatar)

Yep - one of our own TrekBBS members is writing the first one.

is it you? can I have a signed copy?

It is not me.

 

[Sephiroth]

well, whoever is writing, it's a "Magazine", not a "clip"

 

[Admiral_Young]

Skynet doesn't have a plan until it is able to kill John Connor or it's line. It became so advanced that it was able to develop and operate a fully functioning time machine and send a Terminator back in time to accomplish this goal. This act compromised whatever future goals that Skynet originally had and it became obsessed with killing what it perceives to be it's natural nemesis. I find it interesting that a highly advanced and intelligent machine has become so driven as to want to continue extermining a mere single indiviual. I like to think as I stated before the first action of sending a Terminator back through time has corrupted Skynet's programming somewhat. It probaby doesn't really know what it wants until at least after John Connor is destroyed. It's primary agenda is to end the human resistance and realizes that to do this it needs to cripple their morale by killing their greatest leader.