What if the new Trek XI Enterprise looked like this?
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Yes, especially since the ship is a STARSHIP class vessel - as described in the "screen used" dedication plaque.
So it's a shippie, then?
I think that version of the Enterprise captures something that I read that someone said about the look of the Trek movie compared to TOS: the movie will be like HD and let you see a lot of detail that was never visible in TOS.
It's nice, I would be happy with that in the movie. That said, I'd be happier with the CGI model used in rTOS.
Of course, I've got minor "fanboy problems" with it. The panelling is very 20th and 21rst century. Surely by the 24th century technology would have progressed to the point where the entire hull of the ship could be constructed as a whole. Lack of "panelling" would give a stronger overall structure. Access would always be from the interior or via transporter. Similarly the phaser turrets are 20th and 21rst century. I'm sure by the time of TOS technology would be such that no turrets would be necessary and the phaser beams would materialize outside of the hull at any angle desired. Along the same lines, no torpedo tubes would be needed for the photon torpedos. Exhaust ports for the impulse engines also seem too much like something of our time and not TOS time. As do any "flood lights" to illuminate the ship in the dark of space. I'm sure that the hull itself would be luminescent. And so on and so on.
Of course all those critiques apply to pretty much every version of the Enterprise beside TOS version. That's what's so great about TOS version, it so easily lends itself (within the onscreen images and descriptions) to technology well beyond anything we know.
It's nice, I would be happy with that in the movie. That said, I'd be happier with the CGI model used in rTOS.
Of course, I've got minor "fanboy problems" with it. The panelling is very 20th and 21rst century. Surely by the 24th century technology would have progressed to the point where the entire hull of the ship could be constructed as a whole. Lack of "panelling" would give a stronger overall structure. Access would always be from the interior or via transporter. Similarly the phaser turrets are 20th and 21rst century. I'm sure by the time of TOS technology would be such that no turrets would be necessary and the phaser beams would materialize outside of the hull at any angle desired. Along the same lines, no torpedo tubes would be needed for the photon torpedos. Exhaust ports for the impulse engines also seem too much like something of our time and not TOS time. As do any "flood lights" to illuminate the ship in the dark of space. I'm sure that the hull itself would be luminescent. And so on and so on.
Of course all those critiques apply to pretty much every version of the Enterprise beside TOS version. That's what's so great about TOS version, it so easily lends itself (within the onscreen images and descriptions) to technology well beyond anything we know.
I very much like this design! The only thing that I don't like so much is the swept-back nacelle struts. A bit too TMP for my tastes. But that's a minor nit-pick - it's a gorgeous ship! :thumbsup:
I don't think the Enterprise was meant to be THAT advanced. I think the only reason Gene didn't put panels or phaser turrets on the original ship was because you just didn't SEE that kind of detail on spaceships back then. Most rockets and flying saucers in scifi had smooth hulls, so that's what he gave the Enterprise. Obviously by TMP he decided to rectify that.
He probably also assumed that the tiny TV sets of the day wouldn't be able to pick up tiny detail like that anyway, so why bother.
As for the lack of photon torpedoe tubes, I think that was clearly just meant to be an energy blast we were seeing in TOS; it was only in the movies that they switched it to being a literal torpedo.
Vektor, solid gold once again!
Things I like:
-Increased panelling detail, particularly on the nacelles
-Whitish nacelle glow
-Thrusters
-Phasers & torpedo tubes
-Impulse engine housing shape
-Nacelle strut shape
-Inset windows
Things I dislike:
-'Hump' where nacelle meets pylon- what was the rationale here, did I miss an explanation somewhere?
-Inset radiators on warp pylons
-3 'Ribs' running along each nacelle's length
Overall, I think the production of XI could do much MUCH worse, and I would be pleased if their ship looks remotely as good as yours.
Things I like:
-Increased panelling detail, particularly on the nacelles
-Whitish nacelle glow
-Thrusters
-Phasers & torpedo tubes
-Impulse engine housing shape
-Nacelle strut shape
-Inset windows
Things I dislike:
-'Hump' where nacelle meets pylon- what was the rationale here, did I miss an explanation somewhere?
-Inset radiators on warp pylons
-3 'Ribs' running along each nacelle's length
Overall, I think the production of XI could do much MUCH worse, and I would be pleased if their ship looks remotely as good as yours.
Damn... you don't want him trumping us, do you?
Truth be known, if he were on our little 3D interior walkaround project, it wouldn't be stuck on deck four.
As you can tell, he's my CG hero as well.
BTW Vektor, since I presume this a "Pike era" visualization, I'd be proud to have the Kiaga fly alongside it and Vanguard. While I might differ on the details, the overall impression is artistically balanced and gives the impression of something that could easily evolve into the TMP ship. It's well thought out, and well realized.
Vektor, I'm going to throw in my 5 cents here:
swwwwwwwwEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEttt! :thumbsup:
A great bridge between the TOS, and Phase II movie models.
You improved on Star Trek: Legacy's, Adam Turner's, and the TMP's models.
My one rule for the Zero model: It must kick the TMP model's butt.
Congrats. Here's your medal.
Let me take down my Spider-Girl Todd McFarlane style background, and put up your model up.
...
I can't wait for my wife to come home. Thanks dude.
swwwwwwwwEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEttt! :thumbsup:
A great bridge between the TOS, and Phase II movie models.
You improved on Star Trek: Legacy's, Adam Turner's, and the TMP's models.
My one rule for the Zero model: It must kick the TMP model's butt.
Congrats. Here's your medal.
Let me take down my Spider-Girl Todd McFarlane style background, and put up your model up.
...
I can't wait for my wife to come home. Thanks dude.
Amen!richpit said:
It's awesome. I'll be very happy if the new Enterprise looks like this.
it doesn't beat the movie refit enterprise, but is miles better than the original. The only issue I see with it, is the fact it feels soooo small. Perhaps try it just slightly smaller than the refit one I think, this is probably down to panneling details and window sizes.
Small? HUH?
Since the actual concept of the model, I'm sure, is unchanged from the TOS one (ie, the exact same length) and since the Refit was, for all practical purposes, the same size as the TOS one... I'm not following at all?
The thing that made the refit look large was how it was shot in certain early scenes (ie, with the camera just skimming the surface of a GORGEOUSLY finished model). Shoot the TOS design, or Vektor's take on it, with those same techniques and you'll get the same sense of scale.
That's why the guys who do the camera work are every bit as significant in the illusion as the guys who do the model work. Regardless of whether the model and camera are real physical things or entirely digital.
Since the actual concept of the model, I'm sure, is unchanged from the TOS one (ie, the exact same length) and since the Refit was, for all practical purposes, the same size as the TOS one... I'm not following at all?
The thing that made the refit look large was how it was shot in certain early scenes (ie, with the camera just skimming the surface of a GORGEOUSLY finished model). Shoot the TOS design, or Vektor's take on it, with those same techniques and you'll get the same sense of scale.
That's why the guys who do the camera work are every bit as significant in the illusion as the guys who do the model work. Regardless of whether the model and camera are real physical things or entirely digital.
For example, the deep grooves in the bottom of the primary hull really ruin the sense of scale for me. The edges are too neat and the effect is slightly cartoonish.
That's just me though, YMMV.
The model is really beautiful, Vector did a very impressive job. :thumbsup:
That's just me though, YMMV.
The model is really beautiful, Vector did a very impressive job. :thumbsup:
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