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What if Gene Roddenberry was still alive.

My God Man, It's Gene's show. He can do whatever he wanted. Did GR pit a soprano in there? A trumpet couldn't play that part and a violin would be too weak. It's a song for a Wagnarian singer. He used plenty of Courage's music. IMO, the words would have made it intreguing if and maybe he had got them right but you're complaining about him crossing borders when he created those borders.
 
My God Man, It's Gene's show. He can do whatever he wanted. Did GR pit a soprano in there? A trumpet couldn't play that part and a violin would be too weak. It's a song for a Wagnarian singer. He used plenty of Courage's music. IMO, the words would have made it intreguing if and maybe he had got them right but you're complaining about him crossing borders when he created those borders.
No. It was a sleazy thing to do just for a few extra bucks and displayed incredible disrespect to the original composer.
 
My God Man, It's Gene's show. He can do whatever he wanted. Did GR pit a soprano in there? A trumpet couldn't play that part and a violin would be too weak. It's a song for a Wagnarian singer. He used plenty of Courage's music. IMO, the words would have made it intreguing if and maybe he had got them right but you're complaining about him crossing borders when he created those borders.
He technically had the right because he created Star Trek, but it is still considered a sleazy thing to do. They reused Courage's scores from season one, but Courage didn't do anything more with GR. GR had nothing to do with the orchestrations. That wasn't his job.
 
My God Man, It's Gene's show. He can do whatever he wanted. Did GR pit a soprano in there? A trumpet couldn't play that part and a violin would be too weak. It's a song for a Wagnarian singer. He used plenty of Courage's music. IMO, the words would have made it intreguing if and maybe he had got them right but you're complaining about him crossing borders when he created those borders.
He technically had the right because he created Star Trek, but it is still considered a sleazy thing to do. They reused Courage's scores from season one, but Courage didn't do anything more with GR. GR had nothing to do with the orchestrations. That wasn't his job.


That's what I mean. GR was just making the most of Courage's soprano who was already hired. Who was better at writing words, Gene or Alex? The minor seventh of the opening seems to be saying Star Treeek to me... but heck this is fourty years later, but if he could have been sued, I'm sure he would have by now. The subject of auther credit has also come up on episodes like the Sargon episode where Gene took story credit and the writer is all upset to this day which in my mind is a more legitimate claim but I don't know the details of that but I'm assuming he's just looking for on screen credit since there can't be any more royalties at this point, can there? Now had the updated versions had fixed that with a premise by so and so, that would have been great, but I'm chalking it up to oversight and that greedy lawyer of his who is remarkably innocent in any of this.
 
Okay so he'd be up to the regular Hollywood swindler shite they do. What would the franchise be like with him back? Or Gene Coone?
 
When did Gene Roddenberry make use of the soprano who had been hired to record Courage's theme? It wasn't until two years after Courage signed what he thought was the usual contract that he was informed through a letter from Roddenberry (sent October 3, 1967) and a phone call from Roddenberry's infamous lawyer -- Leonard Maizlish -- that he would suddenly only be receiving half of his contracted royalties.

Roddenberry's lyrics lacked musicality, and were never recorded or used for the show. And, apparently, he didn't even write them until production was well underway on the second season! Roddenberry wasn't exercising his creative force as a writer -- he was taking advantage of someone else and making money off of their effort. Unfortunately, this was all but business as usual for him. It's no wonder he had such a hard time finding work after Star Trek was cancelled.
 
My God Man, It's Gene's show. He can do whatever he wanted. Did GR pit a soprano in there? A trumpet couldn't play that part and a violin would be too weak. It's a song for a Wagnarian singer. He used plenty of Courage's music. IMO, the words would have made it intreguing if and maybe he had got them right but you're complaining about him crossing borders when he created those borders.
He technically had the right because he created Star Trek, but it is still considered a sleazy thing to do. They reused Courage's scores from season one, but Courage didn't do anything more with GR. GR had nothing to do with the orchestrations. That wasn't his job.


That's what I mean. GR was just making the most of Courage's soprano who was already hired. Who was better at writing words, Gene or Alex? The minor seventh of the opening seems to be saying Star Treeek to me... but heck this is fourty years later, but if he could have been sued, I'm sure he would have by now. The subject of auther credit has also come up on episodes like the Sargon episode where Gene took story credit and the writer is all upset to this day which in my mind is a more legitimate claim but I don't know the details of that but I'm assuming he's just looking for on screen credit since there can't be any more royalties at this point, can there? Now had the updated versions had fixed that with a premise by so and so, that would have been great, but I'm chalking it up to oversight and that greedy lawyer of his who is remarkably innocent in any of this.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
 
Well he did say that they couldn't pay him enough to do it again which might be why he wasn't able to do it again but I suspect that it was more his ill health and the fact that it won't be allowed to be done again.
I think Schubert sold his unfinished symphony for about fourteen dollars and the copier even lost the last two movements. He died at thirty one. He died like most of them, poor.
He said that they couldn't pay him enough to do it again if it was going to be on network television. He agreed to do TNG because it was going to be syndicated and he'd have more creative control. Hate to burst your bubble, but he kept returning to Star Trek because it made him money. None of his other projects were selling and he was making a living on the convention circuit talking about Star Trek. He would be happy that Star Trek is continuing, because he would continue to see money for it. Everyone who knew him, including his wife and son said he would have loved the new film. I would trust their word on the matter before I would listen to some "fan" with an axe to grind.

I would trust their word on the matter before I would listen to some "fan" with an axe to grind.

Pfft...whatev...

Context.
 
Beethoven's landlady was very criticle of him as well. The only record we have of what he thought of her was three G's and an E Flat. I'm assuming it wasn't a compliment.

hiLARious

Truly lol'd. Thanx.

Lyrics to the theme was a cheap ploy, but one employed by MANY pop stars of the day, attaching their name as a sort of blackmail - if you want me to record the song and make you money, I get a kickback, basically. Doesn't make it right, though, and the lyrics to ST don't scan right with the melody as written by ACourage

You know we also sent Beethoven's fifth symphony out into space supposedly to meet God or some other race along with some other scribblings. Reading material for the aliens when they come to conquer us?
Though to be fair, Beethoven's three g's and an E flat - you know (You F'n b, eat s. and die) is offset by the last movement's Humanistically triumphant triplet and an accented quarter note which suggests something more like - I am the god, of my domain.. etc. Similar actually to the theme of the Motion picture. Coming into one's own music. They should have sent the ninth we want to be brothers music though.
 
That was me trying too hard to be funny, heavily edited. Let's see, take out the question mark, add a parenthetical. Oh hell, just delete the whole post.
Would it matter to you, Yevetha if they paved heaven over and put up a parking lot?
 
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