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What if Gene Roddenberry was still alive.

I was under the impression that Lincoln Enterprises was started earlier than the third season, in 1967 (back when it was called "Star Trek Enterprises").
 
I stand corrected.. The company was mentioned in TMoST. I don't recall which came first, Lincoln on Star Trek. I remember buying Arrowhead patches from Lincoln in the 70s
 
Beethoven's landlady was very criticle of him as well. The only record we have of what he thought of her was three G's and an E Flat. I'm assuming it wasn't a compliment.

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Truly lol'd. Thanx.

Lyrics to the theme was a cheap ploy, but one employed by MANY pop stars of the day, attaching their name as a sort of blackmail - if you want me to record the song and make you money, I get a kickback, basically. Doesn't make it right, though, and the lyrics to ST don't scan right with the melody as written by ACourage
 
You fault him for merchandizing? with the advent of Star Wars? And he had every right to put words to that song. It lended itself to and almost demanded words.

Really? Gee, then how come they were never used? GR was a shallow, self-serving prick that simply did it to take money from Courage's pocket to pad his own.
 
Roddenberry would've forced Berman out after the shocking death of Braga during one of Braga's raunchy Mexican weekends in Tijuana. It would not look good for Berman when angry correspondences from him were found with the body spewing outrage that Braga had intended to displace his boss sooner rather than later. The discovery of the body in the trunk of Ira Behr's car as he was driving overnight to Canada...wouldn't look good for Behr either.

The studio chiefs would want Gene back in and the Berman regime out. Justman and others who'd left earlier in TNG's run would be brought back. Wolfe, Echeverra, and Taylor would be kept in key positions holding the whole thing together during the scandal and Gene's return. Sick and homebound Michael Piller would at advise Berman to lay low and prepare his defense. A the same time, Piller would support his original boss Rodenberry and come out of semi-retirement "for Star Trek".

With Piller's help and studio backing, Gene would make many changes to the shows and with their production staff work marvels. Ratings would skyrocket from all the publicity. The critical reviews would be all over the place yet skew toward the excited with all the changes in staff behind the scenes.

Moore, late one night and back on VOY, after listening to his GEN commentary with Braga, would piece it all together. Roddenberry got to Braga before he and Berman could freeze him next to Walt Disney and have free reign again. Moore would originally take the issue to a friend at the courthouse (also an avid Trek fan, but with his own demented agenda) and would be told to "Forget about it, Ron. This is Hollywood." Moore, calls Piller: "He died shortly after Mr. Rick came to see him," said the maid. "Pills were everywhere."

Moore sets up a sit down with Berman, Roddenberry, himself, and this new guy Abrams. The talk is brutal, petty, and sharp. The new guy's insulted and storms out. Moore follows him out trying to get him back. Back at the table, Berman and Roddenberry both have guns pointed at each other's crotches. Waitress comes by asking what they'd like, and Roddenberry puts up three fingers "Two Roddenberry Ringers - named for me, Rick, when they built me that building - and one for you too, honey." "Don't call me honey, you fracking old-time bastard" Bam, two in the head each.

The next week, the trades announce that Taylor and Moore are going to executive produce the two current series with a host of new, current, and ooold talent honoring the best of what the newly-departed contributed to the great Trek universe, the Trek family. Jonathan Frakes, Leonard Nimoy, and JJ Abrams are some of the directors looking forward to bring Trek back to the big screen in various forms from various casts.

Trek is fresh, brilliant, hot, sexy, humanistic, dark, adventurous, exotic, exalted, and overall kickass. IDIC.
 
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Did you see the trailer for Super 8? It would be like that. It's a little known factoid that Rodenberry's data patterns were stored in a transporter buffer just after TOS ended and locked in an NBC vault. What chance would he have against the almighty dollar anyway?
Seriously, he would have never allowed a woman to get lost in the Delta quadrant due to her own fault and he would have done a prequil(s) right. But for now the Genie stays in the bottle under heavy guard.
 
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^ What would be like Super 8 and how?

What would Trek be like with Gene Coon still alive?
 
Anyway . . . all the other interesting arguments here aside, "Star Trek" was always intended to be a means of commenting on current social issues.

If he were with us and in renewed, youthful health, I would expect new "Trek" episodes to look at (alien versions of) the Tea Party, global warming, Bin Laden, ongoing war (again), national debt, hate crimes, and so on.

Sorry to break it to you, but ray guns and monsters were the least of it, folks. (And while I'm at it, what did JJ bring to any social debate?)
 
What's the current events message of "The Doomsday Machine," again? There's a minor commentary about weapons of mass destruction, but the episode is primarily an action story. Star Trek was made to comment on current events, surely, but it could do a lot of other things, too. "Balance of Terror" is nominally about racism, but its primarily a submarine story (but, in space!).
 
What's the current events message of "The Doomsday Machine," again? There's a minor commentary about weapons of mass destruction, but the episode is primarily an action story. Star Trek was made to comment on current events, surely, but it could do a lot of other things, too. "Balance of Terror" is nominally about racism, but its primarily a submarine story (but, in space!).

If you have to ask how questions about doomsday machines and submarine warfare were current in the 1960s . . . all I can say is that you must not have been alive in the 1960s.
 
True enough that I wasn't alive in the 1960s. That said, I stand by my statement that the commentary in "The Doomsday Machine" is ancillary to the action. I'd also point out that "Balance of Terror" seems more inspired by WWII submarine tales (and the Robert Wise-directed film about the subject, Run Silent, Run Deep) than by anything relating to submarines in the 1960s.

But, being quite removed from the period, I'm ready to be corrected.
 
I have to agree with Harvey here. Star Trek has gotten an inflated reputation for topicality that is not supported by the episodes actually produced. Sure, they touched on Vietnam here, nuclear warfare there, and racism with the black-and-white cookie episode, but the majority of the shows didn't have much to say on social issues. To say otherwise is to give approbation for work the show didn't actually do.
 
True enough that I wasn't alive in the 1960s. That said, I stand by my statement that the commentary in "The Doomsday Machine" is ancillary to the action. I'd also point out that "Balance of Terror" seems more inspired by WWII submarine tales (and the Robert Wise-directed film about the subject, Run Silent, Run Deep) than by anything relating to submarines in the 1960s.

But, being quite removed from the period, I'm ready to be corrected.


He's ready to be corrected.:guffaw:
 
If he were with us and in renewed, youthful health, I would expect new "Trek" episodes to look at (alien versions of) the Tea Party, global warming, Bin Laden, ongoing war (again), national debt, hate crimes, and so on.

I think this would be a good time to do a new Star Trek series. We're distanced enough from the last series, time-wise, and a lot of ground could be covered that there wouldn't be time for or interest in to explore with the movies.

It would also be ideal for the series play to the strengths of the telvision format, instead of making it look like a watered-down version of the JJ Abrams movies.
 
I wish they'd do a Trek series on Showtime or HBO. I think some of their original series are top notch if jaded.
 
Without someone to reconceptualize it, his ideas would be meaningless. As it stands they made the TOS Spock to be a bad guy worse than Nero. The quintessential devil in these matters.
 
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