Besides, it's the mark of a great Starfleet captain to get your ship blown up and get a new namesake ship later. Kirk, Picard, and Sisko.
What if Enterprise D never crashed?
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Besides, it's the mark of a great Starfleet captain to get your ship blown up and get a new namesake ship later. Kirk, Picard, and Sisko.
I think the issue is more that the ship's destruction on screen was done in a totally unsatisfactory manner than it was destroyed. The way the D died smacked off bad writing and didn't have the same sense of sacrifice that the original Enterprise's destruction in TSFS did because it seemed the D died for no good reason.
Yep.
Actually, I thought the descrution of E-D was one of Generation's best aspects in the movie. Some of the movie was a bit degrading, but it was a fun movie to watch, none-the-less. Except for Geordi's cheap "fainting" spell. Hehe.
The scene of the saucer crashing through my father's model train scenery was pretty cool. They'd had the idea to do that scene, it might have been Braga's idea, since S6 of the series, it's stated in the featurettes.
But because of this, the scene had to be hamfisted in there. And it didn't quite fit.
How much cooler would that same kind of crash landing have been fighting the Borg, and with Riker or at least an experienced helmsman at the helm? There was no real meaning to the crash in GEN, other than to have the crash.
It's nothing against Troi, I like her character. I dislike the crash even more because of the stupid, cliche, "oh, we let the woman drive and see what happened" angle that is often mentioned.
I agree crashing the D was a waste and unnecessary to the story. If they hadn't, they would've come up with a new model for the bigger budget movies, and just say it had been refit, just like the original was for TMP. That might've been cool. I do prefer the E to the D, but I wouldn't have minded seeing an upgraded version of the D grace the big screen, either.
Withers
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I'm glad they wrecked Enterprise-D if for no other reason than it opened the class for the ass kicking it received during the Dominion Wars that it couldn't have if the Enterprise were still around. (It'd be for essentially the same production reason Enterprise E and the Sovereign class didn't show up on DS9.) If the Dominion had had nothing but Akira, Miranda, Oberth, Excellcior, and Defiant class ships to fight against the war would've had an unusual scope.
I was never all that big of a fan of the Enterprise D and I was happy they trashed it... just not how. The idea that one Bird of Prey (an old one at that) could take out a Galaxy class star ship so quickly (with or without its shields up) didn't seem reasonable to me. And to end it all with something that has been prevented so many times was an even bigger smack in the face. Like, ok guys, we get you want to replace the Enterprise-D. That doesn't mean you have to urinate on it on its way to the scrap heap.
I was never all that big of a fan of the Enterprise D and I was happy they trashed it... just not how. The idea that one Bird of Prey (an old one at that) could take out a Galaxy class star ship so quickly (with or without its shields up) didn't seem reasonable to me. And to end it all with something that has been prevented so many times was an even bigger smack in the face. Like, ok guys, we get you want to replace the Enterprise-D. That doesn't mean you have to urinate on it on its way to the scrap heap.
-Withers-
They should have kept the Enterprise-D and have Voyager be a Sovereign Class ship, and the Delta Quadrant ass kicking would be more believable.
Wasn't the purpose of the crash to bring in the new Enterprise anyway? Like I said, things change... the E-D was a great ship, but it didn't seem suited for movie-story telling.
Generations should have been the season premiere of season eight. If they needed to kill someone, they could have come up with someone else. And they wouldn't have been able to crash the D because of production necessities. Berman was too hot to get 'his' crew on the big screen.
Ron Moore and Brannon Braga both claimed they did it because they were ready for a new cooler looking one.
An idiotic move, since the D was the best of all the various Enterprises.
The destruction of the Enterprise-D doomed the crew for the rest of the careers to fewer science, diplomatic and humanitarian missions (the heart of Trek).
The experiences of TNG season 1 were varried and monumental. The time between Generations and First Contact however was nothing more than a mundane shakedown cruise in familiar and charted space adjacent the Neutral Zone.
The Ent-E was a battleship and it is naive to think they would have released it from anti-Romulan duty.
The experiences of TNG season 1 were varried and monumental. The time between Generations and First Contact however was nothing more than a mundane shakedown cruise in familiar and charted space adjacent the Neutral Zone.
The Ent-E was a battleship and it is naive to think they would have released it from anti-Romulan duty.
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Agreed.
The D was crashed because it doesn't look like a movie ship. It was made for TV. They had to bring in the E to make it really look theatrical.
Ummm, didn't we already see the destruction of 2 Galaxy class ships before the Enterprise-D was destroyed? Specifically the Yamato and the Odyssey?
In fact, I'm pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that they chose to make the Odyssey a Galaxy class in the episode for the explicit showing of how dangerous the Dominion was; i.e. saying to the viewers, "Yeah, you know the Enterprise-D? These guys would tear it to pieces like this" BAM! "...with only 3 ships. Prepare to shit yourselves, viewers
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No, that was just a commonly believed fallacy. The truth was that TPTB just wanted a new ship, simple as that. They'd seen seven years of the D, and wanted something newer and cooler. There is absolutely no aspect that the Enterprise-E has that makes it any more of a "movie ship" than the D had, other than its "kewlness" factor.
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