What if 7 of 9's Father Magnus Hansen Had Been Rescued?

[Bry_Sinclair]

The question of the Hansen's parenting style could be expanded to any parent on the E-D, taking their children onto a starship to would face the unknown and potential hostile aliens, with no guarantee that the ship would ever make it back to port safely.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

True, but going it alone is even worse; at least the Enterprise-D has an entire crew to choose back-up child minders from.

 

[catshadowsi8]

The question of the Hansen's parenting style could be expanded to any parent on the E-D, taking their children onto a starship to would face the unknown and potential hostile aliens, with no guarantee that the ship would ever make it back to port safely.

It's a matter of degrees. Having children on board a star ship in the Alpha Quadrant vs chasing the Borg is the equivalent of letting your 6 year old kid walk from school alone vs dropping them off in the wilderness and telling them to find their own way home.

 

[Sophie74656]

I never agreed with them taking her along but what was the other option? Dumping her with a relative for how many years?

 

[catshadowsi8]

I never agreed with them taking her along but what was the other option? Dumping her with a relative for how many years?

Absolutely! Children are taken from parents who place their children at risk all the time and raised by living, caring relatives. We know 7 was loved by her aunt. Leave her there!

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Maybe it was selfishly motivated - don't want to miss out on the work, but don't want to miss Annika's growing up either.

 

[Sophie74656]

Absolutely! Children are taken from parents who place their children at risk all the time and raised by living, caring relatives. We know 7 was loved by her aunt. Leave her there!

Loving your niece and being her full time caregiver are very different though.

 

[catshadowsi8]

Loving your niece and being her full time caregiver are very different though.

Then find a friend, or set them up for adoption. When you have children your primary responsibility is their safety. Period. You don't see children on the battlefield for a reason. Your obsession can't come before the welfare of a child. That's why social workers take children to place them in foster care and while the system has some flaws there are amazing homes out there giving these children a chance they wouldn't have otherwise, like 7 didn't have.

 

[Sophie74656]

Then find a friend, or set them up for adoption. When you have children your primary responsibility is their safety. Period. You don't see children on the battlefield for a reason. Your obsession can't come before the welfare of a child. That's why social workers take children to place them in foster care and while the system has some flaws there are amazing homes out there giving these children a chance they wouldn't have otherwise, like 7 didn't have.

I get what you're saying but i get why they took her too

 

[Lynx]

I guess that Magnus Hanson and Seven would have spent most of their time on the holodeck, singing "Mmmmm-bop, bop, bop, mmmmm-bop" together with three holographic images of their ancestors who had a lot of success with that song at the end of the 20th century.

 

[johnnybear]

Seven's parents were separated from each other and lost all memory or emotional attachment, almost like they became different people or has been suggested before, they became zombies!
JB

 

[Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME]

Seven's parents were separated from each other and lost all memory or emotional attachment, almost like they became different people or has been suggested before, they became zombies!
JB

Possible scenario, indeed!

 

[cosmic mouse]

It's also possible that Magnus would have attempted to reconnect with Seven, empathizing with her plight and trying to repair the "damage" that he was partly (wholly? ) the cause of. This, in turn, would potentially leave Janeway feeling marginalized and contentious or even defensive over Seven.

 

[Terok Nor]

I pretty much hate Seven's parents. They were selfish jerks. All they cared about was the Borg. They got what they wanted. Assimilation. I hope they enjoyed it.

 

[Deks]

Absolutely! Children are taken from parents who place their children at risk all the time and raised by living, caring relatives. We know 7 was loved by her aunt. Leave her there!

7 was also loved by her parents.
Many parents (dare I say most of them) who are in Starfleet, take their kids with them (this was evident on-screen).
It doesn't make it any less dangerous if you are with a group of people.

You are looking too much at this from the current day point of view and apply current day views to a society that eliminated a lot of cultural nonsense and notions that people hold today.
For example, a lot of people unnecessarily 'shield' their kids from realities of life (and more often than not, those kids often grow up unprepared for life).
The Hansens weren't morons or irresponsible... that might just be your projection onto the situation without properly understanding the context.

Trek humans obviously DO care and protect their kids... the Hansens were scientists who wanted to pursue their theories about the Borg.
Also, did it ever occur to you that even if they wanted to leave Annika with her aunt, they couldn't?
By the time they deviated from their flight plan and disregarded a direct order to return, as Annika's mother already said:
'We burned our bridges Magnus'.

The first bit of their scientific mission was in relative safety... but when the things turned more serious (probably due to a variety of circumstances), and the Hansens realized that, it was already too late to go back anyway.

Besides, they studied the Borg successfully by shadowing a cube for 3 years essentially undetected and unharmed.
But due to an accidental Ion storm, and Borg relentless adaptation, this eventually stopped.

Heck the Hansens had a better track record in protecting themselves and Annika for 3 years from the Borg. Which is more than I can say for some SF officers who came in contact with the Borg and lost how many crew members within hours or days of meeting them?

The Hansens were exobiologists according to Seven... I doubt such individuals did not exist on the Enterprise-D nor in Starfleet at large.

Though, the Hanses were also in a relatively 'small and nonthreatening' ship which might not have presented an enticing target for assimilation by the Borg (unlike the Enterprise-D).

 

[catshadowsi8]

7 was also loved by her parents.
Many parents (dare I say most of them) who are in Starfleet, take their kids with them (this was evident on-screen).
It doesn't make it any less dangerous if you are with a group of people.

You are looking too much at this from the current day point of view and apply current day views to a society that eliminated a lot of cultural nonsense and notions that people hold today.
For example, a lot of people unnecessarily 'shield' their kids from realities of life (and more often than not, those kids often grow up unprepared for life).
The Hansens weren't morons or irresponsible... that might just be your projection onto the situation without properly understanding the context.

Trek humans obviously DO care and protect their kids... the Hansens were scientists who wanted to pursue their theories about the Borg.
Also, did it ever occur to you that even if they wanted to leave Annika with her aunt, they couldn't?
By the time they deviated from their flight plan and disregarded a direct order to return, as Annika's mother already said:
'We burned our bridges Magnus'.

The first bit of their scientific mission was in relative safety... but when the things turned more serious (probably due to a variety of circumstances), and the Hansens realized that, it was already too late to go back anyway.

Besides, they studied the Borg successfully by shadowing a cube for 3 years essentially undetected and unharmed.
But due to an accidental Ion storm, and Borg relentless adaptation, this eventually stopped.

Heck the Hansens had a better track record in protecting themselves and Annika for 3 years from the Borg. Which is more than I can say for some SF officers who came in contact with the Borg and lost how many crew members within hours or days of meeting them?

The Hansens were exobiologists according to Seven... I doubt such individuals did not exist on the Enterprise-D nor in Starfleet at large.

Though, the Hanses were also in a relatively 'small and nonthreatening' ship which might not have presented an enticing target for assimilation by the Borg (unlike the Enterprise-D).

People make all kinds of excuses for putting their kids at risk and the Hansen's are no different. I'm sure they thought their reasons were justified and it made sense to them. Too bad it turned out to be all smoke and mirrors.

As for no choice, there is always a choice. They just didn't like the alternative, that's all.