What Has Discovery Added To Star Trek Lore?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Kane_Steel, Jan 14, 2019.

  1. fireproof78

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    No, just no. Kirk is insubordinate, very casual with superiors, to the point of shouting at them.

    He steals a ship, sabotages another ship, disobeys a direct order on multiple occasions, with barely a slap on the wrist.

    As mentioned by others, Spock falsifies orders and violates a General Order. Again, no repercussions.
    It really isn't.

    Also, Pike is demonstrated that his behavior is not his normal style and is called out for it by his Chief Medical Officer. He clearly has grown past the PTSD from Rygel 7 and is a far more warm and open commanding officer, as illustrated by his introduction to the Discovery crew.
     
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  2. PicardSpeedo

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    When he had good reason to, as qualified in my original post. You make it sound like this was every episode or even every other episode of TOS.

    Meanwhile, I'm talking about Michael Burnham being an asshole to Pike in every episode of Discovery and Pike just laying down and taking it.
     
  3. Alan Roi

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    I request examples of these statements for each episode of what you claim is going on that match your summaries below. As this does not at all reflect the show I am watching.

    "Week after week, Burnham slaps Pike around with no repercussions at all."
    " I'm talking about Michael Burnham being an asshole to Pike in every episode of Discovery and Pike just laying down and taking it."
     
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  4. PicardSpeedo

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    Cool, I'll keep that in mind.
     
  5. MakeshiftPython

    MakeshiftPython Commodore Commodore

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    Great argument. Wonderful.

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  6. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Which scenes were those? I think I might have missed them. Or maybe there are entire episodes I missed? :shrug:
     
  7. Tuskin38

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    Did you even read the post?
     
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  8. Alan Roi

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    I'm really wondering if CBSAA is providing different versions of the show to different subscribers in that they get a completely different version of scenes. I actually would be interested in seeing the 'Burnham Slapping Pike Around' scenes :eek: that I am apparently being unfairly denied.
     
  9. MakeshiftPython

    MakeshiftPython Commodore Commodore

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    She corrected Pike about some fact = white male genocide
     
  10. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Isn't that the job of a Starfleet officer? Never seemed to be a problem when Spock did it.
     
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  11. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    There was that scene where Pike explicitly told her not to make him laugh:shrug:.
     
  12. matthunter

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    Command officer accepts alternate viewpoints from their crew = beta cuck.

    Is this truly what we've sunk to?
     
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  13. MakeshiftPython

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    He’s a bro though, so it’s more like ball busting. :P
     
  14. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    yeah, but Spock was a (greenish) white, heterosexual, male Alpha. They are allowed to do that
     
  15. fireproof78

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    No, I'm saying it is more egregious than Burnham and received no comment whatsoever.

    But, I would prefer specific examples (as I provided) to Burnham's behavior, rather than blanket accusations. Otherwise, that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
     
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  16. Alan Roi

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    To be fair, previous Star Trek Captains/Commodores/Admirals would make up their minds, ask for advice and then ignore it and do what they wanted to do in the first place pretty much most of the time regardless of their gender. Spock even pointed this out I believe.
     
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  17. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Press One For Regular DISCO
    Press Two For Fan Outrage DISCO
    Press Three For Canon Violating DISCO
     
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  18. Alan Roi

    Alan Roi Commodore Commodore

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    That would explain A LOT!!
     
  19. MakeshiftPython

    MakeshiftPython Commodore Commodore

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    Not so hetero behind closed doors with no cameras.

    :vulcan:

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  20. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    #Spirk
     
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