Has there been an update on Jennifer's case and her serious condition?
What happened to Jennifer Lien?
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No!
I haven't seen anything for a long time, except for Clym's link in a recent post in this thread.
If there is anymore news, it had better be good! She sure could use it ...
her next court appearance is scheduled for August 26. I shall be watching it like a hawk and report all the sordid details here
There's a fine line between public discussion and tabloid delectation. Are you sure you're in the right forum?
Excuse me, but do I detect a certain malice here?
Very inappropriate and not at all pleasuable, to quot Gathorel Labin.
Like I wrote before, compassion is a rare thing in these days. That's sad, isn't it?
However, I do have a feeling that most of the posters on this forum do have a certain compassion for Jennifer and the situation she has ended up in.
As for me, I don't like Berman, Braga, J. Taylor, Fuller and M.Taylor but I would at least have the grace to feel sorry for anyone of them who ended up in a situation similar to Jennifer's.
You noticed that too? It's good to see, isn't it? People with heart...! At the same time, Clym does have a point in that we should temper our compassion to what's factually appropriate. And as of right now, what seems factual is that she remains mentally unbalanced and is also continuing to receive the help she needs. Until something extraordinary comes out to change people's sympathy towards her, then it's probably safe to stay this course.
Just because I happened on this thread and feel sad for her condition (and kind of sad in general after reading through this) I'll share my one cheerful but meaningless fact I know about her:
She can play the trombone. I don't know if she can play it as well as Riker, but you know, still cool.
She can play the trombone. I don't know if she can play it as well as Riker, but you know, still cool.
As a longtime fan of the character Kes and of the actress Jennifer Lien I must admit that I feel devastated by what's going on with Jennifer. It's so tragic.
As I wrote before, I have tons of rock biographies about well-known artists and rock bands and I've read many tragic stories there, many of those have affected me since I happen to be a fan of that particular band with that particular music.
A relative of mine who happens to be a huge fan of a rather well-known band from the 70:s (and who has constantly pestered me with their music too, until I actually began to like the band)
recently bought a biography about the one in the band who went the wrong way, a brilliant musician who succumbed to alcohol and drugs and died before his 40th birthday. My relative was really shaken by that biography and after that I read it too, I can understand it.I can relate to that when it comes to Jennifer.
However, I can't and I won't defend her misdemanors, not even wave them away like some Justin Bieber-type fan, like: "oh it was Jennifer who did it so therefore we must accept, forgive and excuse it".
I'm not that kind of fan, not when it comes to anyone. Neither rock musicians, actors, athlets or whatsoever.
I've often defended the character Kes and the actress Jennifer Lien. On this forum and on others as well and I've ended up in more than one controverse because of that. But faced with clear evidence, I can't defend someone or something which is impossible to defend.
At the same time I really feel sorry for Jennifer. I find the whole thing so incredible tragic because I see an enormous talent who could have reached enormous heights in her acting career and now seem to have wasted it all, not only a possible career but her reputation as well. I also see a fragile human being who somewhere ended up on the wrong path and now has to suffer for it. It's very tragic.
I just hope that she will get the help she need to sort out her problems in order to have a better life in the future.
As for the character Kes, the recent events haven't changed my opinion about the character and her role on Voyager, just made it a bit harder sometimes to watch the episodes, read the books and write stories.
no malice, I've just become interested in Lien's case and am curious to see if she'll get her just desserts
if she has mental problems then I'm not uncompassionate and I sympathise - perhaps her doing a 'Travis Bickle' with the shaved head was a warning sign. But she really can't be let to live freely in civilised society if she keeps breaking the law and poses a danger to the public. She should be locked away where she can do no further damage until she's deemed fit to re-enter society
Goodness Gracious, Sakes' Alive...!!!
how do you think we should handle people who are a danger to the general public?
No one can guarantee the actions of another in any situation or circumstance. I'm an Artist, not a shrink ... I don't have the answer to Kleenex, much less a catch-all solution to dealing with the mentally disturbed. But a chaperone, of some kind, seems like a reasonable course of action,.to me. Or, at least it's a place to start, instead of having her living as a shut-in. That seems a rather draconian approach, to me. Oh! And doesn't Hollywood have facilities that SAG and whatever else pays into, for actors present and past? Can't she be taken to one with some grounds, somewhere? Again, I'm not prepared with anything anywhere near approaching a possible next step, but it's just to say that her dignity can be respected, whilst still taking steps to ensure that she's not out of control. That's all.
I've never fallen that far down the well. But I've fallen far enough to look into the eyes of those that wait there. I've wished I could carry them all with me on my back like some super Sherpa. But you can't. You just have to be grateful you caught a handhold for yourself. All these years and I never saw any of those faces come back up again. I try to live each day in their honor and donate where I can. It's not enough but it's the best I can do. And this little girl has given me one bad case of survivor's guilt.
That would be a very long story and would most likely fit into the TMI category.what happened to you?
It's so easy to overlook that, even on the Internet, everyone has a narrative. Sorry to hear that you've had it so rough, LonelyGirl.
Gah some of you are writing this like Lien is a serial killer.
She's fucked up, she lost her kids, she's spiralling down. There's no reason to have anything but compassion. There's no need to justify it, doesn't matter if you liked her as an actress or if she's a complete stranger.
The brain is as stupid an organ as all the others in how vulnerable and fail it can be.
She's fucked up, she lost her kids, she's spiralling down. There's no reason to have anything but compassion. There's no need to justify it, doesn't matter if you liked her as an actress or if she's a complete stranger.
The brain is as stupid an organ as all the others in how vulnerable and fail it can be.
Don't be sorry. Just help others. That's my message.
We're all doing what we can, I'm sure ...
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