Which wouldn't work because 7 of 9 clearly stated the TW network (as in ALL TW hubs) has been obliterated (a shockwave initiated a chain reaction which destroyed the hub in the DQ that also connected to all other hubs - per dialogue in Endgame).
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Which wouldn't work because 7 of 9 clearly stated the TW network (as in ALL TW hubs) has been obliterated (a shockwave initiated a chain reaction which destroyed the hub in the DQ that also connected to all other hubs - per dialogue in Endgame).
Okay. Forget the Borg. Q tells Janeway he will be sending Voyager and just the humans on the crew back and that they can have a one-week vacation on Earth first and one week per year thereafter but must still fulfill Starfleet's obligation to the human civilization on the planet of the 37s, and that he will accept any volunteer replacements.
But why would Q give a crap about humans who where fine on their own for centuries before Voyager came along specially when 1) that the Federation pretty much leaves colonies founded by humans that never became part of the federation alone unless they ask for help (which the Delta Quandrant group did not) and 2) Since when has Q given a shit about how the lower life forms do things except when he wants to bug them.
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That is not even close. Nothing so emphatic was stated (that the TW Network in its entirety had been destroyed) or implied. Seven was talking about the one in the Delta Quadrant... not the entire Network. And your shock wave bit is a theory of yours (I'm betting you're one of the people who argue for the inclusion of this very thing on the MA page) but it has no basis in on screen verification.
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Kes dies. Sorry, but it's true!
Well, if Q was fascinated with Vash and Janeway, I would guess he would have a thing for Amelia Earhart if he ever met her. 
^^^ This. It's pretty unclear. I just reread the transcript of Endgame -- they talk about the network and the hub as if they are interchangeable. Sloppy writing (again). It could really go either way. I fall on the side of "there's no way they destroyed the entire thing." But I could see how you could believe otherwise. There's no definitive answer going by what we saw onscreen, though -- it's all in how you interpret a series of fairly confusing statements.
Oh no, she doesn't!
http://lynx677.110mb.com/Kesstories.html
"Still alive, still alive, still alive and well
Still alive, still alive, still alive and well!"
Aside: Jen Lein will be at the creation con in Parsippany this year.
Do not presume to make assumptions about me because I never argued for inclusion of anything on 'MA' - are you referring to 'Memory Alpha'?
Furthermore, I wasn't the one who wrote the script for Endgame.
7 of 9 stated and I quote: 'The TW network has been obliterated Captain.'
Taking into consideration the earlier dialogue in the episode how the DQ hub connected to others and had access to all 4 quadrants, plus that a shock-wave would initiate a chain reaction that would spread across the entire network ... the dialogue in combination with 7's final report on the network being 'obliterated' does not leave room for leeway really.
Even the Destiny trilogy novels (which aren't cannon of course) stated the Borg had to find alternative means (which they did) to travel from the DQ to the AQ and initiate their invasion because their TW network was gone.
Oh no, she doesn't!
http://lynx677.110mb.com/Kesstories.html
"Still alive, still alive, still alive and well
Still alive, still alive, still alive and well!"
Dude, it was established in the pilot that the Ocampa lifespan was such that Kes was unlikely to survive the series. (Ocampa live to be nine, Kes was nearly two when she met Voyager.)
Barring the intervention of magic, Kes is going to have died in 2380 or so.
When she got her telepathic super powers, she might also have changed in a way that would make her lifespan longer. I'm willing to accept wild imagination on the Ocampa lifespan issue, because when one considers only canon, the Ocampa need magical intervention to even exist as a biologically viable species. Ya know, that whole one child per woman thing.
Oh no, she doesn't!
http://lynx677.110mb.com/Kesstories.html
"Still alive, still alive, still alive and well
Still alive, still alive, still alive and well!"
Dude, it was established in the pilot that the Ocampa lifespan was such that Kes was unlikely to survive the series. (Ocampa live to be nine, Kes was nearly two when she met Voyager.)
Barring the intervention of magic, Kes is going to have died in 2380 or so.
It was also established in the pilot that The Doctor couldn't function outside of sickbay.
Not to mention that Spock died in "The Wrath Of Khan".
Everything is possible in the Trek universe, including a prolonging of Kes's lifespan. It was stated in "Cold Fire" that a prolonging of Kes's lifespan was possible.
Kes (sings): "Im still alive, still alive, still alive and well!"
Janeway: " I can see that. It's great to have you among us again!"
I agree.
Oh no, she doesn't!
http://lynx677.110mb.com/Kesstories.html
"Still alive, still alive, still alive and well
Still alive, still alive, still alive and well!"
Dude, it was established in the pilot that the Ocampa lifespan was such that Kes was unlikely to survive the series. (Ocampa live to be nine, Kes was nearly two when she met Voyager.)
Barring the intervention of magic, Kes is going to have died in 2380 or so.
Plus, "Fury" showed us Kes in the stages of the Mor-Elogium, when Ocampians are entering the final stages of her life.
"Coldfire" stated that prolonged life for an Ocampian was only capible via "technology created by Susperia."
So it is written, so shall it be done.
Kes is long dead.
I agree.Oh no, she doesn't!
http://lynx677.110mb.com/Kesstories.html
"Still alive, still alive, still alive and well
Still alive, still alive, still alive and well!"
Dude, it was established in the pilot that the Ocampa lifespan was such that Kes was unlikely to survive the series. (Ocampa live to be nine, Kes was nearly two when she met Voyager.)
Barring the intervention of magic, Kes is going to have died in 2380 or so.
Plus, "Fury" showed us Kes in the stages of the Mor-Elogium, when Ocampians are entering the final stages of her life.
"Coldfire" stated that prolonged life for an Ocampian was only capible via "technology created by Susperia."
So it is written, so shall it be done.
Kes is long dead.
Rubbish!
And so was "Fury". A crappy episode featuring a morbid creature which had nothing to do with the real Kes. Besides that, an energy being with such powers should not age. Another mistake from the clever "writers".
"Cold Fire" stated that it was possible to prolong Kes's lifespan. Period!
Not to mention that the good, old Doc or Q could have come up with something.
As it's been stated before:
"Still alive, still alive, still alive and well
Still alive, still alive, still alive and well!"
Sorry, what's been in the show doesn't co-inside with anything you've said. I choose to stick with those that created, developed and wrote for the character as fact. Kes is Kes. There is no "real" vs "fake" Kes. Just as they explained Kes didn't become an energy being, she instead found "Exosha" as also explained in "Coldfire".I agree.
Plus, "Fury" showed us Kes in the stages of the Mor-Elogium, when Ocampians are entering the final stages of her life.
"Coldfire" stated that prolonged life for an Ocampian was only capible via "technology created by Susperia."
So it is written, so shall it be done.
Kes is long dead.
Rubbish!
And so was "Fury". A crappy episode featuring a morbid creature which had nothing to do with the real Kes. Besides that, an energy being with such powers should not age. Another mistake from the clever "writers".
"Cold Fire" stated that it was possible to prolong Kes's lifespan. Period!
Not to mention that the good, old Doc or Q could have come up with something.
As it's been stated before:
"Still alive, still alive, still alive and well
Still alive, still alive, still alive and well!"
Besides, Kes isn't in anyway important to Voyager or the crew upon returning home or their lives there after.
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