What do you want to see in a Buck Rogers remake?
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And we need another Minority Report? Ok the movie wasn't that bad, but the point is still valid.
how bout a naked erin grey?Erin Grey.
You know, it IS 30 years later...
Seriously, don't fuck it up like they did with the new Flash Gordon last year.
/\ Yeah, the last thing I would want to see is buck running around for two hours in a forest with a bunch of half naked bimbos. Well, um, hmm, definitely no forests anyway.
With Frank Miller doing it, "overdone dark-and-gritty stuff" is pretty much a given.
With Frank Miller doing it, "overdone dark-and-gritty stuff" is pretty much a given.
I don't want BSG/Sin City violence and grit, but that's not what I mean by "modern retelling", as my example of what ingredients I want to see in it might suggest.
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I'd like to see one that is true to the original serial (Not the horrendous 1978 Glen Larson NBC TV series)...but uses updated production values/production design that pay homage to the old production design in some way.
I think it should have an Indiana Jones style of action...again that serial feel...
But NOT campy! That's what I hated about the Flash Gordon movie from 1980. I don't think the material needs to be made fun of. It can be fun without being campy...Star Wars proved you could do that.
No TWIKI...no references to the NBC TV series from the 70's...
Sorry guys...
I agree that the recent Flash Gordon series is NOT the way to go.
I think it should have an Indiana Jones style of action...again that serial feel...
But NOT campy! That's what I hated about the Flash Gordon movie from 1980. I don't think the material needs to be made fun of. It can be fun without being campy...Star Wars proved you could do that.
No TWIKI...no references to the NBC TV series from the 70's...
Sorry guys...
I agree that the recent Flash Gordon series is NOT the way to go.
With Frank Miller doing it, "overdone dark-and-gritty stuff" is pretty much a given.
Yeah Buck will be turned into a Marv-type character; the only character it seems Miller is capable of writing. Either that or Buck will be the Goddamn Buck Rogers.
Oh, absolutely, I agree. There's nothing particularly "modern" about gritty negativity and violence. Fashionable, maybe, but fashions come and go. There's no reason why a show or film couldn't be grounded in solid, up-to-date science and worldbuilding while also being fun, upbeat, and entertaining. Except that nobody in Hollywood seems willing to try.
In some respects, no, but in other respects, I wouldn't mind seeing that. The sad thing about FG is that it started out really weak and thereby doomed itself, but in the last 30-40% of the season it got really good. It found its voice, cast aside the things that weren't working and really went all-out with the things that were. It made the best of having a low budget, accepting that it couldn't deliver spectacle and epic action and focusing more on worldbuilding and character-driven storytelling, which made for some very engaging writing.
So while I'd hope to see an adaptation with a bigger budget, stronger cast, and surer sense of identity and direction from the get-go, I would also like to see that same kind of emphasis on character and worldbuilding. I'd like to see something that looks big-budget but is written like it's low-budget, relying on people and ideas and emotions to carry the story rather than action and spectacle. The action and spectacle should be well-done, but should support the rest rather than overwhelming it.
The opposite of retro. Buck wakes up in a future that isn't copied from old scifi movies and TV series. The aftermath of global warming, genetically engineered variants on human beings, maybe a space elevator or three, AIs as real characters (even the TV series had the idea although it couldn't deliver!) It's pretty much the sky's the limit---oh, wait, maybe not even the sky!
As far as bleak goes, having your entire world and everyone you know gone will suffice. We don't need pompous trash by cynics and bigots who think humanity=evil.
As far as bleak goes, having your entire world and everyone you know gone will suffice. We don't need pompous trash by cynics and bigots who think humanity=evil.
I certainly don't think they should go in that direction, since those days have long since past, But I actually loved the '80 Flash Gordon. Sure it was silly and over the top, but everything about it just seemed to work. It's developed a reputation over the years as being a guilty pleasure, and I for one am guilty as charged.
Whereas I greatly prefer the '79 animated Flash Gordon from Filmation, which was the most faithful adaptation of the comic strips ever made. The movie version, which was only aired once on TV in '82 and has never been available on video, was made for prime time and is a lot more adult and better-animated than most Saturday morning fare at the time. It was hacked up badly for the weekly series (which is out on DVD), but a lot of its quality remains, at least in the first season before they dumbed it down and added a pink baby dragon sidekick.
Espically since New Galactica ran it into the ground.
As for me, I want it to be good.
I just want actors who can act-thereby putting to rest any comparisons to the Gil Gerard show! Gina Torres gets my vote for Wilma-but someone needs to point out to the studios that Frank Miller is a comic book guy-not a film director! Good for advice, not for the helm!
As for Anthony Rodgers-how about Marky Mark?
As for Anthony Rodgers-how about Marky Mark?
They'll probably just get Christian Bale. And he'd probably be good.
I could live with that, although I still think Jackman might be suitable in the role.
I also just wanted to clarify that although I'd like to see a serious BR story, told in a realistic fashion, I'm not saying that I'd go for the grim&gritty BSG type of realism. Somewhere between nuBSG and DS9, I guess is what I'm hoping for. I really like Christopher's idea of it being set solely in the solar system, exploring what mankind might actually be able to do with colonizing the planets and moons within a 500 year period.
The big question is: Should he be from 1928 or a contemporary man? Either way, the guy should go through culture shock upon awakening to five centuries of progress.
I don't see any believable way that a man from 1928 could've been cryogenically preserved. We're a long way from making that a viable technology even today.
Dusty Ayres
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You're not getting any of that shit, thank God; that show was a piece of shit, and Frank Miller can't be any worse than Leslie Stevens and Bruce Lansbury in directing and writing it; besides, since most of you love Battlestar Galactica anyway, dark should be a walk in the park for you. No fracking Hawk, or Twiki, or any of that bullshit-let this Buck Rogers be better than that. If Miller has to do it, so be it.
As much as I loved that movie, the OP's got a point. It's been done to death.
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That Filmation series was great! Something like that...live action and with state of the art visual effects would be perfect for Buck Rogers!
There's not a thing wrong with the retro look...as long as it's paid homage to. I think designers can come up with something that pays tribute to it without being held slave to it -- that's what I'm talking about -- I don't want to see rocketships with sparks flying out the back.
If they aren't going to stay true to the original then why call it Buck Rogers at all? That's the big problem I had with the Flash Gordon TV series...
I liked the look of the Flash Gordon film...and Max Von Sydow was near perfect as Ming. I just hated that campy script and that music from Queen (in the film -- its fine as stand-alone rock music -- I just didn't think it fit the film).
Just come up with your own thing and call it something else.
I think they should write a "shell" around the premise and say that there is a "comic book universe" that this takes place in -- not the real one. I think it could work...maybe have somebody get sucked into the comic strip and have it start from there...
Have it open like Superman The Movie with the comic book pages...except have it be a newspaper turned to the Buck Rogers strip...
Once you establish that this isn't OUR universe, then I think the retro thing would work!
I agree 100%.
I enjoyed the nuBSG mini-series, but I gradually lost interest by the end of season two. I want something lighter -- not Adam West Batman lighter (although I love that series), but also not a show in which it's conceivable that any and all of the characters might slit their wrists in a single episode.
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