what characters do you dislike the most?

[Bored]

I like all of the main characters, but my least favourite i O'Brien. Nice guy, but boring story lines.

 

[Smellincoffee]

Kai Winn makes me want to commit murder.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Zek. Good God, would I cringe every time he showed up...

 

[Kes2370]

Ki Winn - I just wanna feed her hamster food (she looks like a Hamster)

and Gul Dukat (just dont like him)

 

[Tallifer]

I loved almost every single character. What a contrast with Voyager or Next Generation wherein I liked a few strong actors (Picard, Data, the Doctor, Tuvok) and hated or ignored many (Janeway, Troi and Troi, Crusher and Crusher, Riker and Riker, Geordi, Chakotay, Belonna, Paris, Harry, Neelix, Kes...)

Great villains: Win, Dukat, Enabrin Tain, the Shapechangers, the Vorta, the Breen, the Jem Hadar, Brunt.

Great leaders: Sisko, Martok, Kira, the Nagus

Great people: O'Brian, Bashir, Ezri, Odo, Quark, Rom, Nog, Koth the Klingon, Moogie

Great mysteries: the Prophets, Garak,

There were a few I found annoying or boring: Jake, Keiko, Jadzia; and surprisingly I has different reactions to Worf at different times.

(The biggest problem with Jadzia was that she had a skinny supermodel body but she was almost as strong in combat as Worf. Huh?)

 

[Captain Ransom]

Jadiza Dax. She quite often comes across as needlessly arrogant, self-aggrandizing, supremely self-absorbed and mean-spirited. Other times, she's tolerable, but that's it - tolerable.

What makes it worse is that a lot of the other characters treat her like she's practically a goddess.

I find her quite shallow really.

I don't like to say that I dislike anyone in Star Trek. I love Star Trek and, at this point, I'm just grateful that the actors who agreed to the parts, agreed to the parts and performed them to the best of their abilities.

That said, I wasn't really a fan of Jadzia for the above (quoted) reasons...

And when it comes to Ezri, while I don't dislike her character, I didn't get the impression that the Dax symbiont was as much a part of her character as it was a part of Jadzia's character. But then, that could have been due to the fact that Ezri wasn't prepared for the symbiont the way Jadzia was.

Out of the secondary characters - I found Zek annoying. As a character he was weaselly, selfish, greedy, manipulative...pretty much what you expect from a Ferengi politician. All that was fine, it was just his voice...it got very grating after a while if he had a big role in the episode.

Don't forget that Prophet-forsaken laugh of his. lol

 

[Mr. Scott]

The Prophets...........

What a bunch of annoying aliens. Never really said anything, but everyone thought theyb were so cool and holy. "The Sisko is of Bajor" nonsense. Appearing as other characters. They had many other sayings, and if I was a character in that Universe, I might have grabbed one and knocked the truth out of him/her, or just announced in that loud, black-man Sisko voice, "Why don't you MF'ers stop with the nonsense and tell me what in the hell (or F***) is going on.

However, since the Prophets made the Dominion disappear (and I guess die) in the wormhole with only Sisko's ship to fight them and die, Sisko couldn't be mad at them anymore. But it would of been interesting if the Borg tried to assimilate them, with the Borg blowing up trying to assimilate these annoying beings.

 

[sonak]

I thought the Prophets were OK when they were just regarded as Wormhole Aliens who HAPPENED to be worshipped by Bajorans(one of those "Gods from a certain point of view" things in sci-fi)


However, when in later seasons, they were shown to really act like the Gods of Bajor, having engineered Sisko's birth, and that prophet vs. pah-wraith stuff, it just got ridiculous.

it went from a typical Star Trek message of "gods as advanced alien beings" to some kind of cliched angels vs. demons comic book-type stuff.

 

[apollo1984]

But then, that could have been due to the fact that Ezri wasn't prepared for the symbiont the way Jadzia was.

I always thought that way about Ezri as she did not go through selection like a trill had done in the past.

If you accept any of the Destiny novels as cannon she came across as a more wizened captain, as by that time she had come to accept ehat the Dax symbiont had to offer her.

 

[Navaros]

You would of had major issues no matter what, as Terry Farrel put the producers in a bind by not doing S7. (And I found Ezri a lot more watchable then Jazdia)

But the producers had to add a female to the cast to replace J. Dax in some form, as Kira as the only female would be bad for both storylines and for ratings. So they had three options for how to handle it.

1. Upgrade a minor character to main cast - However by the end of season 3 they did not have a female minor cast worth "promoting", as they had killed off a few of them already.

2. Introduce a new character with no connections to the main cast.

3. take the Dax symbiont and put it in another female trill, and make her not the same as J. Dax.

They went with three, and I prefer option 3 to option 2.

The writers have said they had to add a female, but I disagree. Jadzia leaving posed no problem for the show.

Adding a character for affirmative action reasons, such as based on the actor's sex, like they did with Ezri, is horrible for storylines. Ezri demonstrates that very well. All of her storylines were useless filler.

Characters should only be included if they have merit based on their contribution to the story that is being told. Ezri had none; she was completely irrelevant to the story of the show.

Similarly, Jadzia also had none and was also completely irrelevant to the story of the show.

They could done absolutely nothing to "replace" Jadzia, and the show would have been fine, and much better than it turned out by adding Ezri, and probably also much better than it would have turned out with any other affirmative action replacements. From a storytelling perspective, doing nothing to replace Jadzia is the very best option.

I'm not sure if ratings would have suffered...do people actually count the number of affirmative action-based characters on a show and then watch or not watch based on that? If so, one would would think that VOY would have had amazing ratings since it is chock full of affirmative action-based characters.

But in any case, they should have let ratings suffer, if they were going to, rather than sacrifice the quality of the show by employing irrelevant affirmative action characters. It's not like ratings mattered that much in S7 given that they were ending the show anyhow.

 

[sonak]

You would of had major issues no matter what, as Terry Farrel put the producers in a bind by not doing S7. (And I found Ezri a lot more watchable then Jazdia)

But the producers had to add a female to the cast to replace J. Dax in some form, as Kira as the only female would be bad for both storylines and for ratings. So they had three options for how to handle it.

1. Upgrade a minor character to main cast - However by the end of season 3 they did not have a female minor cast worth "promoting", as they had killed off a few of them already.

2. Introduce a new character with no connections to the main cast.

3. take the Dax symbiont and put it in another female trill, and make her not the same as J. Dax.

They went with three, and I prefer option 3 to option 2.

The writers have said they had to add a female, but I disagree. Jadzia leaving posed no problem for the show.

Adding a character for affirmative action reasons, such as based on the actor's sex, like they did with Ezri, is horrible for storylines. Ezri demonstrates that very well. All of her storylines were useless filler.

Characters should only be included if they have merit based on their contribution to the story that is being told. Ezri had none; she was completely irrelevant to the story of the show.

Similarly, Jadzia also had none and was also completely irrelevant to the story of the show.

They could done absolutely nothing to "replace" Jadzia, and the show would have been fine, and much better than it turned out by adding Ezri, and probably also much better than it would have turned out with any other affirmative action replacements. From a storytelling perspective, doing nothing to replace Jadzia is the very best option.

I'm not sure if ratings would have suffered...do people actually count the number of affirmative action-based characters on a show and then watch or not watch based on that? If so, one would would think that VOY would have had amazing ratings since it is chock full of affirmative action-based characters.

But in any case, they should have let ratings suffer, if they were going to, rather than sacrifice the quality of the show by employing irrelevant affirmative action characters. It's not like ratings mattered that much in S7 given that they were ending the show anyhow.

you're repeated references to "affirmative action" casting notwithstanding, TV shows very much have to take into account things like gender balance for storylines. A show with a whopping 8-to-1 ratio of male to female castmembers just doesn't work from a storytelling perspective on a show like DS9. No other Trek show except for TOS had a ratio even close to that, and that was only 6-to-1,and it was a totally different, non-serialized show, and the Big Three were the major emphasis of the show at any rate.

you may not have liked the character of Ezri, but she did factor into storylines throughout the season, like the awkwardness with Worf, and the issue of where that relationship was going to go, etc. I thought they did a good balance of not letting her get too much emphasis as the new character, but not letting her get lost in the shuffle of a final season either.

 

[PopBoy]

I like all of the main characters, but my least favourite i O'Brien. Nice guy, but boring story lines.

Totally agree. A real shame as he's a great actor.

 

[eepruls]

I think some people are having a difficult time separating a character from the actor that played them. For example, I don't mind Jadzia the character, but I find Terry Farrell a weak actor which could make Jadzia disliked. I loved Ezri and thought she added a fresh face to the show. And I really liked the dynamic with Worf. Can you imagine losing a loved one, only to have them 'sort of' come back in a different person?

I think my least favourite characters are Zek and Leeta. They both have the most annoying voices ever. When Leeta says, "Oh Rom!" and does that ridiculous whimper, I want to stab my ears.

 

[Art Vandelay]

I don't actively dislike any character on DS9, but to me Shakaar is the blandest recurring character ever.

 

[Admiral Shran]

I think some people are having a difficult time separating a character from the actor that played them. For example, I don't mind Jadzia the character, but I find Terry Farrell a weak actor which could make Jadzia disliked.

My dislike for Jadiza is well known, but I don't hold that against Farrell. Personally, I thought she did a pretty good job with what she was given. It's just that the character really annoys me.

 

[Rom's Sehlat]

I don't actively dislike any character on DS9, but to me Shakaar is the blandest recurring character ever.

Shakaar was a resistance-fighter-turned-politician. He would have had to have blanded himself down to win the votes of a majority of the people. No good resistance fighter will have the support of enough people to be voted in; there's always a few collaborators in the mix to vote for the other guy.

 

[Distorted Humor]

When I said they needed another female, it nothing about affirmative action, it was that DS9 was heavily tilted towards male characters, so if Kira or Dax where lost, then they would have to get another female for 3 basic reasons.

1. storytelling - the ratio of 6 to 1 with the female as Kira would of badly limited the ability to carry out B plots, and even some of the A-plots would be badly limited.
2. Female viewers, half the population is female (if not a little more) and a show that makes no attempt to attract female viewers will get killed. Not only in loosing female viewers, but the GF or wife will put her foot down and say "we are not watching X, I can't stand it." I would kill for the looks of Alexander Siddig, but DS9 didn't have many actors who women crush on....

3. Eyecandy - Lets be honest, Troi was in a cat suit not for story reasons. Terry Farrell is a former model and a stunning looker, Voyager ADDED a catsuit for ratings. While some do like Nana Vastor as Kira looks, a lot more find the model looks of Farrell or the utter sweet-cuteness of Nicole de Boer worth tuning in.

 

[moriluk]

I have looked over a few eps and officially decided i can't stand Kai Win, or at least the actress tht plays her, but i really do't know why... :/

Really? I have always liked the actress because of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. She seems to always play an evil character. I like Win because she is supposed to be hated and I do "hate" her. "Hate" here is different than say, my hate for Neelix or Star Wars.

On this show I do not care for for Kira.

I get it, she's the "bitch", with the butch hair cut and the horrible outfit. What is with that outfit? Aweful! The pants, shoulder pads, horrible shade of red. And the hair? Terrible! What is wrong with looking good? I know, T&A is SOOO wrong! Mostly I do not care for the actress (hence the quotes). The one from NG would have been way better. She can play a bitch. She can act. Which is probably why she turned down the role (movie career I think).

I have mixed feelings about Odo. He gets things done. But he is an absolute cry baby! If his authority is shaken in any way he immediately quites. He want to be an authority figure but he does not respect authority. If any Star Fleet security shows up to the station he immediately gets a stick up his arse and threatens to quite. Sisko has to carefully coax the baby into staying.

tl;dr sorry

 

[JimCanuck]

Only one I didn't like was Jake, only role he served is to get Nog into the Academy, after that if he quietly disappeared things would have been better.

Dax being arrogant and full of herself played well with her character, I liked her part in the story line. She was a 300+ year old larger then life character who helped foster peace between the Federation and the Klingons in a previous life, so she had reasons to be full of herself. They shouldn't have replaced her.

Generally the full of themselves person in Star Trek is the Capt, (Kirk, and Picard up to that point), and because it was not in this case, and because the over all dynamic of the crew was more of less equal, it allowed character development on a scale not seen in Star Trek before. Even non-officer members such as Garak or O'Brien were not treated as simple disposable/filler characters. Which allowed the story of a group of people to grow and merge by the end of it. Instead of in most Trek series, where everyone is always in the back seat compared to the Capt.

Which is probably why DS9 was my favorite.

Jim

 

[Josie]

Okay...

Main Characters

Ezri Dax

I don't hate her, I just don't really like her much, if at all. I can't really decide. Initially her flakyness, her insecurity, her impulsiveness just didn't sit well with me. Yet the episodes where she is the main character I liked.

Worf

Too many years of all that Klingon BS. Whenever Worf neglected to mention his Klingon roots or rituals, I liked him. When he did I could barely tolerate him. Him and his stupid Klingon crusades just got tiring. It's as if he felt he was the only one capable to put the Klingon empire back together again. Get a grip Worf, the Klingon Empire is not Humpty Dumpty and you're not it's saviour.


Sisko Senior

Completely aggravating with all the prophet crap. The amount of time that backstory was changed at the whim of the writers was just too painful. How he could buy into the prophets was just plain ludicrous. His arrogance did him no favours either.

Recurring Characters

Rom

My god, he would have to be one of the most annoying characters ever on TV. Alice off the Brady Bunch and Steve Urkel pail in comparison to that annoying, emasculated, simpering wimp of sh*t. I hate all his stories, the romance with Leeta, the Union movement, the trying to kill Quark. Another character that had serious character trait rewrites. The amount of whiplash I got from the writers changing the character's direction was staggering.

Vic Bloody Fontaine

I actually class him as more annoying than Wesley. Seeing as I was born after 1940, had no desire to see a ham fisted approach of the Rat Pack and did not care for any of that era, Vic was another dagger shoved into my appreciation of DS9. Pally, Pallyy, Paallllly, Palllyyyy, Paly, PALLY, PAllEE, PPPAAALLLYYY. Enough Vic. No doubt the writers thought they were being cool about trying to recreate the perceived glamour and sophistication of that era, but it was just so jarring. I wanted a war and a space station, not some seedy den devoid of cheap hookers and cocaine.

Leeta

Hmmm, nup, if I start posting why I don't like her I don't think I'll be able to stop.

All Ferengi except Quark, except if Quark is somehow involved in zany hijicks with said ferengis.

Keiko

I never felt the love between her and O'brien. Also, her leaving him continually to look at fungi on Bajor, umm sweetheart, why even have a husband if you can't even spend a month with him in a year.

The writing really let a lot of these characters down (except Vic, whoever created that character or allowed that character to survive the drafting process needs blacklisted). Which is a shame as Rom did have potential except be the down troden gimp that eventually 'fights back'.