God, I still can't give over how cheap they were being with that. This is the first TNG movie USE THE DAMN BUDGET!
What Changed All Good Things?
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God, I still can't give over how cheap they were being with that. This is the first TNG movie USE THE DAMN BUDGET!
I think that the future changed the very instant that Picard told the crew about the future he saw. Think about it -- by telling the crew about what happened to them they had thoughts in their mind when they were making decisions that they didn't have before. Riker might have thought about giving Worf a black eye, but then remembered the future where neither of them got Troi and decided to hold back his anger. By being told their potential futures their futures were changed.
The Enterprise-D survived into the future in the original time line. However, when Picard shared information about the future, the time line changed, and as a result, the Enterprise-D got jumped by an old Klingon ship and destroyed.
I think the fact that Q didn't erase Picard's memories in favor of protecting the time line as a sort of personal gift to his old friend/rival. Normally Starfleet frowns on messing with time so Picard telling the crew what he saw was actually a pretty gutsy leap.
They did. $35 million doesn't buy you much in Hollywood, not even back in 1994.
That wasn't much of a budget, even back then.
I think I said that. 
$35 million doesn't buy you much, not even when you're using the same sets, costumes, and props you've been using the last seven years.
$35 million doesn't buy you much, not even when you're using the same sets, costumes, and props you've been using the last seven years.
In Generations they switched back and forth randomly between the TNG (season 3+) uniforms and the DS9 (original "jumpsuit") uniforms. There was supposed to be a new uniform design for Generations (basically a modified version of the TV uniforms) but they got axed by budget concerns. The new "blues" debuted in First Contact and got adopted on DS9 thereafter. (And I think showed up on Voyager once in awhile after they reestablished contact with the Federation.)
And put me in the "AGT future was all a Q-generated simulation, or 'never happened' because of Picard's solution to the problem" camp. Things reverted to the "present" and events from the end of AGT forward simply played out differently due to any number of small decisions going differently. Presumably, somewhere out there in the metaverse, there's a universe where the AGT future did indeed come to pass.
Sadly, based on what we've seen in "The Visitor" and "Endgame," it looks like Q's 'prediction' about the future design of Starfleet uniforms will come to pass. Apparently by the turn of the 25th century, it'll be high fashion to pull our pants up past our waist like our grandparents.
I'm sorry, I can't hear what you're saying. I'm too busy staring at your avatar.
It could be a 24th-25th century equivalent of the TMP space PJs (I could only hope...).
They were made and then discarded, because they didn't look good on screen, and were very uncomfortable under movie lights. They simulated the shoulder flap of the ST II costumes. Playmates' "Generations" figures featured the unused costumes.
A decision was made to borrow some DS9 outfits and they were introduced slowly throughout the film.
That reason makes a lot more sense than the silly "too many changes" reason that's been kicked around for years. The change in that uniform design certainly wouldn't have been as radical as the change from TOS to TMP, or TMP to TWOK (or TWOK-TVH to TNG, for that matter).
I think you are leaving out the part that may have the answer. AGT has three storylines:
Storyline1--Seven years before "now" and the crew is clueless.
Storyline2--"now" and the crew has something of a handle of it. This is "our" storyline.
Storyline3--decades after "now" and the crew is mostly clueless but most importantly does not remember Storyline2.
This detail is, I think, the answer. That the Storyline3 crew does not have any recollection about the antitime thing twenty-odd years ago and a final encounter with Q and the judgement of humanity means those events are not in their past. It's a whole different reality, just like the Storyline2 crew does not remember skipping the Farpoint mission altogether and doing the antitime thing seven years earlier--and getting destroyed!
The outcome of Storyline2 erased both the other storylines since that storyline's resolution cannot exist in Storyline1's future and does not exist in Storyline3's past.
Or it might be just a tv show.
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