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What are your TNG unpopular opinions/hot takes?

Must've been one hell of an orgasm.

He did know how she liked to be...touched.

There is a segment of Trek fans out there who argue against what what would amount to genocide. While I may understand the argument, the Borg were not a civilization that could be bargained with. It was kill or be killed and under those circumstances, Picard should have taken that option.

Except, it turned out it wasn't kill or be killed, because the Federation is still going a thousand years in the future. Plus, if they'd done it and it actually worked (which I highly doubt it would), 7 would've died a drone and Voyager would likely still be stranded, assuming they survived without 7.

Archer would have.

...Is that something to aspire to?
 
Except, it turned out it wasn't kill or be killed, because the Federation is still going a thousand years in the future. Plus, if they'd done it and it actually worked (which I highly doubt it would), 7 would've died a drone and Voyager would likely still be stranded, assuming they survived without 7.

All of that is irrelevant to the TNG episode because it either hadn't happened yet or wasn't created until a later Trek show.

Regarding your comment about it not working, even if it did that wouldn't stop some bored writer who wanted the Borg back from coming up with a way to do it.
 
Except, it turned out it wasn't kill or be killed, because the Federation is still going a thousand years in the future. Plus, if they'd done it and it actually worked (which I highly doubt it would), 7 would've died a drone and Voyager would likely still be stranded, assuming they survived without 7.
Except that literally none of these existed, not even in a writer's mind, at the time "I, Borg" was written, or produced, or aired. No future Federation, no Seven of Nine, and no Voyager. So none of them can be used to justify Picard's decision. And as @Herbert pointed out, if Picard had made a different choice in "I Borg," and he had succeeded in destroying the Borg, if later writers wanted to use the Borg, they would have b.s.ed up a way to make it happen. If memory serves, the Daleks have been killed off more than once in Doctor Who, and yet they (several variations of them, no less!) showed up in the latest series.
 
Except that literally none of these existed, not even in a writer's mind, at the time "I, Borg" was written, or produced, or aired. No future Federation, no Seven of Nine, and no Voyager. So none of them can be used to justify Picard's decision. And as @Herbert pointed out, if Picard had made a different choice in "I Borg," and he had succeeded in destroying the Borg, if later writers wanted to use the Borg, they would have b.s.ed up a way to make it happen. If memory serves, the Daleks have been killed off more than once in Doctor Who, and yet they (several variations of them, no less!) showed up in the latest series.

Maybe we'll find out that humans using time travel caused the borg to exist a couple of millennia ago.
 
"Justice" becomes rather a good episode, one almost worthy of recommendation, once Wesley is faced by the executioners in the garden. Shortening the ridiculous start and refining the opening bridge dialogue to something other than ("they screw like bunnies"/"Let's bring down the teen and see if thinks kids will like it too!" :brickwall:) and elongating everything from the arrest onward would be huge. The Data/Picard scenes show some actual strengths. (And a hot take is how the color of the Edo's outfit refers to who they want to oil up, note the various shades of the same cliche pink/purple and blue and yet they're not uniform between the males an female Edo. On the minus side, indulging whoever by showing everyone fondle in a public orgy setting is a downer, but on the plus side there's a close-up on some guy's (barely covered gluteus maximus) instead of a woman's. Plus, the added time from shortening the start could have them properly sell the prime directive because this episode almost nails it, if it weren't for the awful rewrite couples with gratuitous oil use, which seems out of place and arguably over the top. Yes, they're simple folk but so much is glossed over. But let's just gloss over that with shiny massage oil...
 
"Justice" becomes rather a good episode, one almost worthy of recommendation, once Wesley is faced by the executioners in the garden. Shortening the ridiculous start and refining the opening bridge dialogue to something other than ("they screw like bunnies"/"Let's bring down the teen and see if thinks kids will like it too!" :brickwall:) and elongating everything from the arrest onward would be huge. The Data/Picard scenes show some actual strengths. (And a hot take is how the color of the Edo's outfit refers to who they want to oil up, note the various shades of the same cliche pink/purple and blue and yet they're not uniform between the males an female Edo. On the minus side, indulging whoever by showing everyone fondle in a public orgy setting is a downer, but on the plus side there's a close-up on some guy's (barely covered gluteus maximus) instead of a woman's. Plus, the added time from shortening the start could have them properly sell the prime directive because this episode almost nails it, if it weren't for the awful rewrite couples with gratuitous oil use, which seems out of place and arguably over the top. Yes, they're simple folk but so much is glossed over. But let's just gloss over that with shiny massage oil...

Basically, if you remove the useless wandering, exhibitionist, agist crap, plus the inept dialogues, etc...

you're left with three minutes and a half of a very acceptable episode...
 
I sort of agree and disagree. The show did play towards mainstream views for the most part but it still created a version of the future were all our modern day problems have mostly gone away. You also had a action adventure show where the heroes more often or not thought their way out of problems instead of just going pew pew pew. As for the gay episode it was not gay conversion therapy in my mind. More like giving someone a lobotomy. She is a victim and the show does acknowledge that this society is wrong in doing what it does to people like her.
My gay friends find current renditions of gay people far more annoying. Honestly we watched a ton of trek before the topic even came up. To my best friend he doesn't care if there's a bunch of gay marriages floating around, he cares if the men are actually attractive. STD's characters are not attractive in his mind. When you appeal to straight men, you don't show a ton of marriages, you show single attractive women, why the double standard?

TNG never had gay characters, but it isn't like they wouldn't be there. There's no scenario where riker, data, wesley, leforge, or picard would be "pulling out".

When you show a believable utopian society, no poverty etc, open sexuality is automatically assumed.

The biggest sin of nu trek is that it doesn't establish enough utopianism, to truly imply that everything is cool.

STD is so dystopian I could easily imagine the empress or Lorca filling the room full of bigotry and homophobia. Or even Burnam being revolted by advances from a female.
 
My biggest one is that I unironically really enjoy season 1 and consider it to be very entertaining. Most of that is down to the very specific and particular 80s cheesiness and charm, which I have a soft spot for. Even the universally agreed upon "worst" episodes I can find some mild entertainment/amusement from (e.g. Code of Honor, Justice). I like how much of season 1 basically feels like a long-delayed season 4 of TOS. That has a certain appeal, in a way, like seeing what might have happened if TOS got a season 4 right away in 1969/70. I enjoy the cheesy stories, the stilted dialogue, the cheap sets and costumes, etc. It's all so campy and fun. Later TNG became so polished and refined that it lost that early charm. Season 1 is a huge guilty pleasure for me.

I also genuinely consider season 1 to be superior to season 7. Season 1, for all its flaws, at least had a lot of memorable episodes. Almost every single episode in season 7 was painfully forgettable.

Having been immersed recently in the series in its entirety, there is something to say about the earlier seasons (1-4), specifically that, while uneven and campy at times, they have a certain colorfulness and adventure about them. The later seasons (5-7) seem sort of...........bland? The lighting is too bright, there is little or no memorable music- or much music at all (Ron Jones is gone after S4) and it just doesn't feel like there is much tension or danger to our characters. Not to say that there aren't a lot of good episodes in the later seasons but there is a certain "cinematic" feeling to the earlier seasons that gets lost at some point and I feel a lot had to do with Ron Jones' earlier compositions for the show.
 
STD is so dystopian I could easily imagine the empress or Lorca filling the room full of bigotry and homophobia. Or even Burnam being revolted by advances from a female.

I could see it going the other way, too. Imagine what sort of bizarre scenarios a sicko could concoct on a holodeck.
 
That assumes they're informed. Would holodecks have a subroutine written into their software saying something like "this guy's a serious perv, better report him to Starfleet Security"?
 
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