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What are your thoughts about seeing the prime universe again?

And I would agree (it's why I never understand the want for grit in their Trek, at least not of a certain nature.)

Andromeda and B5 actually bothe contain that same optimism to a degree as far as I can recall. It's just less widespread.

Even Dark Matter seems to revolve around the idea that people are good to each other if you strip everything else away. These are definitely all things that are children of Trek mind you.
It's some degree, but it isn't the cornerstone. The whole point of Star Trek was that humanity survived the constant threat of nuclear war and managed to come together.
 
Sometimes, I miss the days when it was just Star Trek around. There seemed to be this universe of weird and wild wonder where anything could happen. Even early TNG had some of this flavor. Then the spinoffs kinda devolved into bland, paint-by-numbers drama.

Completely agree.

It often seemed like TPTB were trying too hard, perhaps out of a feeling of obligation, to try to bind all the shows together by attaching a laundry list of things to each episode or season to keep it in line with the greater whole--like, each season had a Rommie or Borg quota, or whatever. It was sort of a half-hearted attempt at world building through the pretense of continuity.

Yet all the shows were so insular and self-contained that it really didn't matter.

Take something like the Maquis. It was briefly introduced in one show, briefly established in another to be used in a third. However, its significance in the first two series was minimal at best, and it's actual impact on the third was so small, one could argue it wasn't even worth the effort. All to create some sort of false bridge connecting the three shows.

However, everything else (Cling-ots, Rommies, Borg, et all) were all portrayed very differently from series to series. They included them out of obligation but changed them to fit the needs/time/agenda. Some were changed so much that one can't help but wonder why they ever bothered maintaining the illusion of a single universe at all. And why this one wonders why Fuller continues to do it.

DS9 was excellent. If you think that wwas paint by nunbers then you don't get what makes a good show.
It was pretty paint by numbers. And by "excellent" do you mean cliched and trite and overly pretentious?

The acting wasn't bad, though.
 
DS9 is the best Trek series after TOS!

I really couldn't tell you which of the spinoffs is best from my perspective. They all do a great deal right, they all also have perplexing aspects that really turn me off.

They all have great episodes that I enjoy. But I'm not sure I consider any of them great "series".
 
I really couldn't tell you which of the spinoffs is best from my perspective. They all do a great deal right, they all also have perplexing aspects that really turn me off.

They all have great episodes that I enjoy. But I'm not sure I consider any of them great "series".
Yeah. "It's all the same to me." is about how I look at it.

At the top sits season 1 of TOS, a couple of TOS films and the nuFilms. Then comes everything else.
 
I'm glad we're not going back to the 24th century. To me, the 23rd-century defines Star Trek, no matter which particular universe it may happen to take place in. Any other era is tangential.

Going back to the earlier jab at fans who didn't support Nemesis, I was one of "those people" who did not go see NEM in the theater... not out of some active desire for it to fail, but because by that point I was just burnt out on Trek due to the sheer mediocrity of all those years of VOY and ENT, and I really didn't give a crap about this franchise anymore. When I finally got around to getting a used DVD of NEM for a few bucks and watched it, I sure was glad I never wasted my money on a full-priced movie ticket for that rubbish!

Kor
 
Going back to the earlier jab at fans who didn't support Nemesis, I was one of "those people" who did not go see NEM in the theater...

I saw Nemesis twice at the theater, and I think it is the calling card for the tail end of the Berman years. Sheer mediocrity says it all.
 
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Pleasantly surprised and cautiously optimistic. nice to be back in the old stomping grounds, afraid of what new retcons and/or contradictions will be introduced into the continuity.
 
Pleasantly surprised and cautiously optimistic. nice to be back in the old stomping grounds, afraid of what new retcons and/or contradictions will be introduced into the continuity.
I think we will see shades of tos in the ship, uniforms for the time period.but they will update It to fit modern times and tech. I liked what STE did when they showed a classic connie. They.updated tge screen graphics and lightning. It looked pretty nice.
 
I think we will see shades of tos in the ship, uniforms for the time period.but they will update It to fit modern times and tech.

Fuller has already said they are reimagining the look of the 23rd century.
 
No it isn't.
Yes it is.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is.
You don't know that.
Yes I do.
You don't know that.
Yes, I do.


Lather, rinse, repeat.

Have I missed anything?
 
Wow, this topic has blown up! I'm proud of you all!

Do you all think we'll see any characters from Enterprise appear in it at all?
 
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