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What are your thoughts about seeing the prime universe again?

Everyone seems to be ignoring this post.
Yes, but some of us wouldn't even need technology. Speaking for myself, I could easily go the Picard route, sitting on the bridge, directing the mission while my first officer goes down to the planet.
 
Kirk had super-deadly Vegan choriomeningitis and also couldn't take certain medications (Retinax V). Picard had an artificial heart.

Starfleet captains aren't the picture of health that we imagine them to be. It's just that, in the future, medicine is so super-advanced that disabled people are few and far between (no offense!).

Geordi La Forge, the blind engineer, seemed to be doing a pretty good job commanding the Challenger in that alternate timeline.

If Stephen Hawking were in the Star Trek universe, he'd probably be given a pill to cure up that bit of ALS he seems to have caught.
 
...just so they can mingle it in their head as the creators are wrong and it's not quite the prime universe.

If they are reimagineing the look of the 2250's, then it won't quite be the Prime universe.
 
Yes, but some of us wouldn't even need technology. Speaking for myself, I could easily go the Picard route, sitting on the bridge, directing the mission while my first officer goes down to the planet.

And when an event like "Disaster" happens, how exactly are you planning on moving around that massive starship?
 
So disabled people can't be captains? I'll remember that when I command a ship. I'll even take you on as a crew member. Hope you like cleaning the bathrooms with your tounge and riding on the outside......
Most militaries and police departments would not accept disabled people as field officers, due to their disability hampering their ability to perform said job.
 
Most militaries and police departments would not accept disabled people as field officers, due to their disability hampering their ability to perform said job.

I had planned on joining the Air Force. Decided against it when they told me I wouldn't be able to fly due to blindness in one eye. Them's the breaks.
 
And when an event like "Disaster" happens, how exactly are you planning on moving around that massive starship?
I can walk to a point, and when that gets tiresome, I'll pull myself everywhere. My arms work just fine.

Of course, the one thing that episode didn't take into account was that the artifical gravity should have also shut off. If it did on my ship, I'd just fly everywhere.

Contrary to popular belief, we cripples are simply hobbled, not helpless.
 
Contrary to popular belief, we cripples are simply hobbled, not helpless.

No one said the handicapped were helpless. Just that certain people aren't material for starship captains, Stephen Hawking with full blown ALS would be one of them.
 
Most militaries and police departments would not accept disabled people as field officers, due to their disability hampering their ability to perform said job.
True enough, and something I went through when I turned 18 and every branch of the service came after me to join. Although they DID tell me they sometimes took on disabled people as office workers and I cold quailfy for that. But i didn't try since I had no interest in a military career. Of course this was back in 1988. I have no idea what they do today.
 
No one said the handicapped were helpless. Just that certain people aren't material for starship captains, Stephen Hawking with full blown ALS would be one of them.
I know nobody said it, but whenever we are told we can't do something by somebody who doesn't bother to learn about our disabilities, it's always implied, and that irritates me more than anything.
 
I never said it was dead.

Maybe you didn't, but others sure did! ;)

http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/will-star-trek-ever-return-to-prime-universe.189595/

You should never have taunted the nay-sayers that they were wrong! They will NEVER EVER admit they were wrong. Before that they are going to badmouth Discovery and it's creators hard, before the show has even started, and picking questionable lines of dialogue from single episodes to say how much STD will be an abomination against canon, just so they can mingle it in their head as the creators are wrong and it's not quite the prime universe.

I know, right? I really stirred up a real hornet's nest! Turns out most people prefer to invent unbelievable BS rather than admit online they were wrong once! :lol:
 
True enough, and something I went through when I turned 18 and every branch of the service came after me to join. Although they DID tell me they sometimes took on disabled people as office workers and I could qualify for that. But i didn't try since I had no interest in a military career. Of course this was back in 1988. I have no idea what they do today.
Israel's Defense Force employs autistic 'soldiers' in a special intelligence section. They can be trained to look for patterns and naturally can act in a very repetitive manner. I don't know what they do for persons with physical handicaps though.
 
Agree="Captain of the USS Averof, post: 11742069, member: 72745"]And anyone who thinks that the Prime universe is dead and (outside of novels and comics) will never be seen again is also seriously deluding himself.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Do the prime haters really think that writers want to destroy genes original vision?
 
I know, right? I really stirred up a real hornet's nest! Turns out most people prefer to invent unbelievable BS rather than admit online they were wrong once!

So what do you make of the fact that not only will they be contradicting TOS by changing the look of the 2250's, but will also be contradicting the spinoffs that also used that look to represent the mid-23rd century? Does the fact that they are erasing a huge part of the visual look of the time period still make it "Prime"?
 
So what do you make of the fact that not only will they be contradicting TOS by changing the look of the 2250's, but will also be contradicting the spinoffs that also used that look to represent the mid-23rd century? Does the fact that they are erasing a huge part of the visual look of the time period still make it "Prime"?

What fact? We haven't seen anything yet!!! We haven't seen the finalized ship, the costumes, the crew, the storyline! We don't even know the characters names! What are you talking about???
 
I know nobody said it, but whenever we are told we can't do something by somebody who doesn't bother to learn about our disabilities, it's always implied, and that irritates me more than anything.
I hear you.
 
So what do you make of the fact that not only will they be contradicting TOS by changing the look of the 2250's, but will also be contradicting the spinoffs that also used that look to represent the mid-23rd century? Does the fact that they are erasing a huge part of the visual look of the time period still make it "Prime"?

I like to think, and I might be wrong, that the TOS-aesthetic (or perhaps, "The Cage"-aesthetic) will be used for the most part to represent the major Federation ships and the like. But that the Discovery will be a special ship, with its own aesthetic, and will be dealing with new species and new adventures. It won't override anything major from TOS, and we'll be able to explain everything rationally.

Or as rationally as we did with Enterprise.
 
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