Off as in, he stopped giving a shit. He doesn't look, sound or act like Kor. There's no Kor core to grab on to that makes him connected to TOS beyond the name.
I probably feel off too but I still have something people recognize.
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I probably feel off too but I still have something people recognize.
Kang & Kor: "How did Kirk die? Was it a glorious death befitting such a warrior?"
Me: "A
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Never meet your heroes or your aged opponents.
Me: "A
rusty bolt broke, squashing Kirk with a metal walkway.
Never meet your heroes or your aged opponents.
I think that's unfair. Kirk's death was very heroic. He'd just nearly fallen off the bridge to his death, only barely gotten off it alive, but he unhesitatingly went back out onto the bridge that had just almost killed him, because he still had a job to do and people to protect. That's profoundly heroic and profoundly in character, but in such a casual, matter-of-fact way that people tend to overlook it.
FWIW, that's exactly the way I feel about the Picard we see in season 1 of Picard.
And Kirk left an eternity in paradise to save 230 million people who will never know he even existed.
That’s pretty fucking heroic.
The bridge thing doesn’t matter.
That’s what really happened.
Kirk's death is fine, save for the bridge falling. Show an explosion, Picard has to follow up on the mission, then finds Kirk.
Boom. Scene is so much better.
Boom. Scene is so much better.
Why would Kirk com back as a fat old man?
I don't think he did.
But every time he came back as a version of himself younger, smarter and faster, he failed, and everyone died, or got eaten by the Nexus.
"That doesn't sound so bad."
"It happened because he was trying to save 230 million sheep."
"Alas! A tragedy!"
I think that, no matter the objective, Klingons would respect an officer who doesn't hesitate to throw himself back into the jaws of death he escaped from seconds before because he's that dedicated to his goal.
Maybe because he was depicted as a drunk?
Substance abuse will do that to you. They even had an episode of DS9 where people laughed at Kor because he was nothing like the warrior he used to be. They laughed and laughed because he was only a drunk and not some mighty warrior. Then they stopped laughing when he showed he had at least one last battle deep inside. Then they sang a song in his honor.
Again. Same thing. Only this time it wasn't substance abuse but a trauma. Broken people act like they are broken. Doesn't matter if it's self inflicted abuse or a outside incident.
There is actually a pretty good theory out there that all of Trek from the time Picard entered the Nexus is just a Nexus illusion in Picard's head. The Nexus grants your wish in the form of an illusion that grants your heart's desire. Picard's desire was to leave the Nexus. Cue illusion. This is actually a plot hole.
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Regarding Kor...
It wasn't because Kor was a drunk that others were laughing at him. It was because of his failing memory... essentially Klingon Alzheimer's. (Worf had to remind him which ship to report to as Third Officer, him confusing the current battle with the Dominion over a Federation one over a century before, forgetting he had to go to the bridge during alert status, etc.)
"ONCE MORE UNTO THE BREACH" was an excellent episode. Gave Martok even more depth, and had a great message about dying the way you lived. In this case, as a warrior.
Kor struck me as an apparatchik. Kang as a soldier. And Koloth as a politician
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