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I like Prodigy a lot, would probably rank 3rd for me from the nu-Trek series. But I wasn’t as gaga over S2 as most people are.
 
I think Netflix probably bagged the streaming rights to PRO for a decent price that made sense economically. I doubt, given it's continued lack of impact, that it would be viable for them to make more. We'd have heard something on the wind by now I think if the show had done the numbers.
Didn't I hear that it's numbers when it went up (both when they put up season 1 and then subsequently season 2) where surprisingly good?
 
Didn't I hear that it's numbers when it went up (both when they put up season 1 and then subsequently season 2) where surprisingly good?

Surprisingly good is a loaded term which implies they didn’t expect it to do very well…

Forgive me. Conjecture on my part.

Despite it not setting my world on fire, I’d like it to be picked up purely on the basis that many others would be happy.
 
Surprisingly good is a loaded term which implies they didn’t expect it to do very well…

Forgive me. Conjecture on my part.

Despite it not setting my world on fire, I’d like it to be picked up purely on the basis that many others would be happy.
It's been a bit but I thought "Surprisingly good" was something like "In the top shows released that week" or some such.
 
I’ve heard the term ‘long tail’ bandied about a lot when it comes to streamers. I believe it refers to a shows ability to sustain and grow an audience after it makes an initial splash.

The creators of the show have since moved on to pastures new which kind of says it all, as does the fact that we are seven months on from when Season 2 dropped and not a peep about a renewal.
 
I think T'Pol's catsuit is an integral part of Trek lore. Nah, I'm joking. It's highly illogical but I'm enough of a petty person to enjoy the tight catsuits and needlessly shapely stuff like that. Even if it does break things but that's just the parts of my brain fighting it out.

My big opinion is that I wish there was more of a focus on the TMP-era side of things before it got into TWOK as I very much enjoy the costumes of that film and after eating up the whole system of uniform and rankings and so on, it just hits me so much that I wish there was more for it. Hell, I even wish STO had more options for TMP uniforms like the away-mission jacket and so on. Oh and I like Profit and Lace for being utter insanity.
 
I think T'Pol's catsuit is an integral part of Trek lore. Nah, I'm joking. It's highly illogical but I'm enough of a petty person to enjoy the tight catsuits and needlessly shapely stuff like that. Even if it does break things but that's just the parts of my brain fighting it out.

My big opinion is that I wish there was more of a focus on the TMP-era side of things before it got into TWOK as I very much enjoy the costumes of that film and after eating up the whole system of uniform and rankings and so on, it just hits me so much that I wish there was more for it. Hell, I even wish STO had more options for TMP uniforms like the away-mission jacket and so on. Oh and I like Profit and Lace for being utter insanity.

I totally agree! I’m a big fan of the TMP aesthetic
 
It did stir the pot in that it once again made the Eugenics Wars a 20th century event. If it has redeeming qualities of any kind, THAT little nugget tossed out by Alok's age and the fact he was Augmented as a young man will keep fandom arguing for years to come. :lol:
Or the fact that the Eugenics Wars having 2x different occurance time frames that are significantly off could mean a branch in the timeline.

Ergo, pointing to the obvious solution of "Multiple Timelines" beyond 2x that is stated by Paramount.
 
I know many love it, but this is the thread for controversial opinions and… sorry, but I think PRO is weak.

Most of the characters fell flat for me. The story became less and less interesting the more it leant into being a VOY sequel rather than its own thing. I also found the animation itself to veer between passable and janky.

By the end I was forcing myself through it and as a result ended up dropping it entirely about 6-7 episodes before the end of S02. I can see why it was cancelled and understand why it failed to pick up the audience that it hoped to capture.

As I said, I’m aware many love it. The opinion is mine and mine alone I guess, but this is the thread for it.

I agree. I kind of liked Prodigy at the beginning, even though it felt for all the world it was set in the Star Wars rather than Star Trek universe. But it gradually became a fairly lame sequel to Voyager, which I still consider one of the weakest iterations of Trek and the first Trek show I ever bailed on (doesn’t help Voyager was airing the same time as Farscape, which blew it out the water so dramatically it basically ruined Trek for me for years).

I’ve never much liked Janeway or Kate Mulgrew’s performance style, so that didn’t much work for me. The animation was also incredibly mixed. Sometimes it was fantastic, but when it came to recognisable human faces, it often succumbed to uncanny valley creepiness.

Someone like Jellico, Okona or Chakotay appeared and I was really taken out of it by how LITTLE the CGI design resembled the actor. It’s almost like they should have stuck with entirely non-human characters because that’s what the animators were good at. Real faces? Forget it.

I don’t have a Netflix subscription so I’d have to get one specifically to watch season two and I’ve just not felt sufficiently motivated to do that. I’ve heard fans rave about it and the return of Wesley Crusher. But geez, Wesley is…not a selling point for me regardless of how he’s handled. (Now if we’d had some DS9 characters I’d have been there in a flash! But we all know how little regard the current era has for DS9.)

I’m happy a lot of people seem to love it though. I’m so out of step with what most fans seem to like and dislike nowadays. And that’s fine. Means I can contribute to this thread more often ;)
 
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Monday marks 20 years since UPN announced the cancellation of Enterprise and rang the death knell of the Classic Era of the franchise. Twenty years later and that pink slip still stings.

To provide context, 20 years to the day after NBC cancelled TOS the fifth movie was already in postproduction and approaching its Summer 1989 release date.

I hear what you are saying and I might even agree with the opinion, but is that really how Star Trek is today?

Were fans as divided about Trek in 1989 as they are today? Is the division fueled in part by the splintered nature of Trek today? By that I mean in 1989 we had TOS movies and TNG on television and that's it. Today we have just went through 3 live action series plus 2 animated series plus a streaming movie (plus the Abrams era) with each being pretty diverse and separated from each other.
 
I think T'Pol's catsuit is an integral part of Trek lore. Nah, I'm joking. It's highly illogical but I'm enough of a petty person to enjoy the tight catsuits and needlessly shapely stuff like that. Even if it does break things but that's just the parts of my brain fighting it out.

My big opinion is that I wish there was more of a focus on the TMP-era side of things before it got into TWOK as I very much enjoy the costumes of that film and after eating up the whole system of uniform and rankings and so on, it just hits me so much that I wish there was more for it. Hell, I even wish STO had more options for TMP uniforms like the away-mission jacket and so on. Oh and I like Profit and Lace for being utter insanity.
Most people seem to find the TMP uniforms bland and boring, but personally I’m with you — it makes them look like a team of scientists and astronauts, rather than naval officers.
 
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