I liked Prime Georgiou a lot and far more than her Mirror counterpart. She'd have been a great series lead.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Asians have done really badly out of Star Trek. Sulu, Kim the eternal ensign, Hoshi, Georgiou and another bit player bridge officer in Discovery brings us right back to the 1966 status-quo.
to me killing her off in the pilot was the first and possibly biggest mistake they made aside from making the show a prequel. If you excised the jaunt to the mirror verse you could have pushed the mutiny/death plot line to the mid-season finale, assuming you still wanted to kill her off that is.
Hollywood doesn't like casting us Asians in many shows for some reason.
Hollywoods talks of "Diversity" is full of plattitudes & BS.
They wouldn't know "Diversity" if it bit them in the arse.
I doubt if she made it past the opening episodes she would have died.
Controversial opinion: Allow others to opine openly and vocally even if their opinion offends and/or you disagree with it. People can enjoy the franchise, be devoted to it even, so much that they want to stay updated on the going ons even if they dislike some parts of it. Those people are free to continue watching said parts they dislike, and they're free to talk about how much they dislike it online even as they continue watching it. There shouldn't be anything wrong with that. You telling those people to be "positive" and how there are other ways for them to "engage" are meaningless; as for me, I will continue watching Discovery and I will continue stating my negative opinions of it so long as the quality remains the way it is currently.
Your view that I should quit watching it if I don't like it is not the route I'm gonna take, thanks.
You're not alone in that. It's confusing. I'd say enjoy but I don't think it will be so.
My five biggest bits of head canon:
5. The Prophets didn't fully reverse what they did in Zeke's head, which explained why he dated a suffragette, imposed women's rights, and liberalized the Alliance soon afterward.
5 (tie). There was already a strong underground female equality movement on Ferenginar. Ishka was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
4. Amelia Janeway (from Una McCormick's book) actually exists. It's newer Trek, so no spoilers.
3. Bashir reverse-engineered the process used to implant Miles's "prison" sentence and was able to reduce the memories to a blur, explaining why Miles wasn't completely wrecked by the incident.
2. Riker's NX-01 holoprogram used outdated footage and imported characters who were actually not on the Enterprise in 2161 (and reduced them to their 2155 ranks).
1. "Threshold" was the result of a nightmare, triggered by Tom eating too much of Neelix's leola root enchiladas. It never actually happened.
5. The Prophets didn't fully reverse what they did in Zeke's head, which explained why he dated a suffragette, imposed women's rights, and liberalized the Alliance soon afterward.
5 (tie). There was already a strong underground female equality movement on Ferenginar. Ishka was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
4. Amelia Janeway (from Una McCormick's book) actually exists. It's newer Trek, so no spoilers.
3. Bashir reverse-engineered the process used to implant Miles's "prison" sentence and was able to reduce the memories to a blur, explaining why Miles wasn't completely wrecked by the incident.
2. Riker's NX-01 holoprogram used outdated footage and imported characters who were actually not on the Enterprise in 2161 (and reduced them to their 2155 ranks).
1. "Threshold" was the result of a nightmare, triggered by Tom eating too much of Neelix's leola root enchiladas. It never actually happened.
Kirk, though presenting a Scottish last name, might be 7/8 German. Lotta German heritage in Iowa. McCoy, with an Irish name, might be 7/8 German. Riker, Yar, Crusher? All could be German. My name is Lynch, but I’m only 3/16 Irish if I recall correctly and have German “in” me.
Where does this stop? My kids are 1/4 Finnish. Where is the Finnish representation in main crew? Wait. 1/2 of that is Nordic Finn — actually Urgyik, not Scandinavian; and 1/2 Sami (who have a really sweet flag, by the way). Both types have been grievously underrepresented on main bridge crews.
Make Trek Finnish again!
Lt. Karl Jaeger from "The Squire of Gothos(TOS)" may be the only officer of German heritage to be officially acknowledged onscreen in Trek.
But how much German heritage is left in Iowa by the time James T. Kirk is born?
For all we know, James T. Kirk might be full of Scottish heritage only.
McCoy could be considered pure Scottish or Irish with no German in him.
Riker / Yar / Crusher, unknown given how their families have moved around.
I'm fine with more Finnish / Scandinavian representation.
We don't get enough representation from that side of the world anyways.
What's wrong with the Dutch?
Why would that part of the gene pool be randomly discarded? Especially considering that it would probably require a specific, coordinated effort to get rid of it due to how intermingled everything is.
Of course there's also the question of how important stuff like that is. Personally I've never been of the opinion that somebody is automatically, magically German, Scottish or any other nationality only because some ancestor of theirs many generations ago was (heritage yes, but automatic, cultural identity based on genetics alone...no, I don't get that).
Like my great-grandfather was Polish, but I'd never call myself a Polish person because I've never been to Poland, I don't speak Polish, I don't know anything about Polish traditional culture. Etc. I don't even know which part of Poland he was from.
Fact is we haven't had a German main character yet and Kirk (or any other character) possibly, maybe, perhaps having a German ancestor 10 generations ago wouldn't change anything about that. The closest we have is Leah Brahms possibly being German due to her name, which also is just a "maybe".
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I know Keyla Detmer isn't a main character, but she was revealed to be from Düsseldorf, Germany in the same novel which gave the character her name, so she's maybe the closest we have.
Well, this displays my ignorance of the Trek shows I don't watch/don't watch regularly.
In any case; cool!
You missed the joke...
I've only seen the first 2x Austin Powers movies.
So if that's from a later Austin Powers film, I may have never heard that joke before.
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