What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Amasov, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Commodore Commodore

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    I wonder which side the Borg would prefer to be on, the Synthetic AI Cthulu-like Life Forms, or us Organics, or their own hybrid Biological/Synthetic Hybrid Borg side?
     
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  2. Christmas Corps

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    In Dune, it's a ghola.
     
  3. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Commodore Commodore

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    The cause felt like the origin story of a mutant from X-men.
     
  4. Brobdingnag

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    True but in essence, it's the same thing.
     
  5. JRoss

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    From Armus' perspective? Sure, they dazzle. They're changelings and he's black sludge. The Changeling species was stated as originally being humanoid. They're warp-capable on their own. The Great Link could have come from anywhere. They had to be nomadic while they were on the run before they managed to create the Dominion. So, yeah.
     
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    Are you like, the Angel of Death? You want everyone dead!
     
  7. Brobdingnag

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  8. Trek the Halls

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    Just like comics... and other TV shows... and some movie franchises... :lol:
     
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  9. dupersuper

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    You may like a story from the IDW Waypoint comics...

    I don't get the impression that robocthulu would accept hybrid allies.

    Black sludge looks up to brown sludge?

    When?

    It still feels like a huge reach to me.
     
  10. Farscape One

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    The Female Changeling said to Odo in "THE SEARCH, PART II" that Changelings used to be 'monoforms'. I might be wrong on the episode, but I do know she said it to him once.
     
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  11. Christmas Corps

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    It's in "Behind the Lines" [http://www.chakoteya.net/DS9/528.htm]:

    ODO: Have our people always been shape-shifters, or was there a time when we were like the solids?
    FOUNDER: Eons ago we were like them, limited to one form, but then we evolved.​
     
  12. Grendelsbayne

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    ^For accuracy's sake, though, those lines don't necessarily mean they were humanoid.
     
  13. at Quark's

    at Quark's Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    ODO: Have our people always been shape-shifters, or was there a time when we were like the solids?
    FOUNDER: Eons ago we were like them, limited to one form, but then we evolved.
    ODO (whispering): You mean .... you used to be humanoid, all those eons ago?
    FOUNDER: What gave youi that idea? No, all those eons ago, we were nothing but the brown sludge you see before you. And we resented it!
     
  14. Grendelsbayne

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    Solid and humanoid aren't the same thing.
     
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    I know plenty of humanoids that are not solid.
     
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    Are they meat popsicles?
     
  17. Brobdingnag

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    Ask the Donner party, it's all they had for dessert for months...
     
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  18. There Be Whales Here

    There Be Whales Here Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    That once you get past the characters' prolonged staring at special effects to fill time, The Motion Picture is a passable film. Granted it took me time to come to that conclusion and required concentrating more on the lesser drama and dialogue parts through repeated viewings.

    But perhaps the biggest one between myself and perhaps a newer generation of fans is that anything after Voyager is basically non-Trek and I personally don't consider it canon, especially the aptly initialized STD.
     
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  20. Mytran

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    Really? A newer generation of fans? Are you referring to those who grew up on the Kelvin-verse movies, or perhaps even those who started watching in 2017?

    Or are you referring to the segment of the fanbase who grew up with first-run TNG through ENT and consider that era of the franchise to be the "one true Star Trek" - anything beforehand seen as not quite so good and anything afterwards an unbridled heresy! :eek:

    Because that segment of fandom is now 20+ years old and therefore the previous generation :devil:
     
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