What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[knightgrace]

So, which bone are you going to pick?

I think that it should be a wing bone, where the support pylon goes into the secondary hull of the TOS Enterprise...

She is a beautiful bird.

 

[Jayson1]

Seven looked better in her catsuits than a Starfleet uniform. I know lots of people say the opposite but I disagree. Until PIcard season 3. When it comes down to it and Starfleet unifroms the Picard ones looked better than the Voyager ones. I think it might because she is allowed a better haircut as well.

 

[korblborp]

i liked the silver one

 

[fireproof78]

The catsuits are the worst costuming choice in the history and of Star Trek, beaten only perhaps by the Gorgon's outfit in "And the Children Shall Lead."

 

[Turtletrekker]

Seven looked better in her catsuits than a Starfleet uniform. I know lots of people say the opposite but I disagree. Until PIcard season 3. When it comes down to it and Starfleet unifroms the Picard ones looked better than the Voyager ones. I think it might because she is allowed a better haircut as well.

Seven looked far better in civilian clothes in Picard season 1 than she ever looked in any cat suit or Starfleet uniform.

 

[Paul755]

Seven looked better in her catsuits than a Starfleet uniform. I know lots of people say the opposite but I disagree. Until PIcard season 3. When it comes down to it and Starfleet unifroms the Picard ones looked better than the Voyager ones. I think it might because she is allowed a better haircut as well.

I agree that she looked better in the catsuits. But I also think she looked fine in the normal civilian clothes (like in Unimatrix Zero) or in the uniform. I never threw in with the “she must be in a uniform” crowd considering they never pushed that for Neelix or Kes.

Seven looked better in civilian clothes in Picard season 1 than she ever looked in any cat suit or Starfleet uniform.

I liked that her Ranger “outfit” seemed unique. Like I said above, I think she looks good in both. She’s a pretty lady that is going to look good in pretty much whatever costume they give her.

 

[korblborp]

upon my last rewatch, i decided i wish they had kept seven in the borg getup for at least a couple of episodes more, removed it in pieces, show the healing process.
as much as i do like the silver catsuit.
also, i just had this wild idea for an episode where she tries to explore "fashion" and she goes to neelix for advice and she winds up wearing a version of one of his suits

 

[137th Gebirg]

I think it would have been better to show her healing and removing all the Borg bits during Voyager's run. But since the ship itself kept getting reset to drydock-new between each episode after getting pummeled by the space-bullies of the week, asking them to have that kind of forethought with Seven probably would have been too much for them to handle. It would also necessitate eventually losing the catsuit (as I recall it had Borg tech components inside it, hence all the reportedly uncomfortable exoskeleton ribbing it had integrated into the fabric) and they definitely couldn't have that.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

The catsuits are the worst costuming choice in the history and of Star Trek, beaten only perhaps by the Gorgon's outfit in "And the Children Shall Lead."

Is this really controversial? I think most people think this.

I would argue that it was a good choice when introduced. Catsuits were a product of the 60s, the manifestation of new synthetic fabrics, thus looked very futuristic. The stretch and cling of these fabrics played into cultural movements to reveal th human form and free it from the shame attached to sexuality. Indeed, men were costumed in similarly skin-tight costumes (ever see Batman, even the early TNG uniforms aren't that far off). Surely the catsuit became a lazy way of sexualizing actresses by making the shape of the female obvious or presenting it in a way to make it desirable. However, this drive never went away. Plenty of actresses are still dressed according to the same aesthetics, having clothing tightly tailored to their form (like Black Widow or the new snow bunny version of Nurse Chapel).

 

[137th Gebirg]

Speaking of "interesting" clothing choices, I'm counting the seconds before someone brings up what a great idea the skant was. Now that is a controversial topic!

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Speaking of "interesting" clothing choices, I'm counting the seconds before someone brings up what a great idea the skant was. Now that is a controversial topic!

I wouldn't, but skants were more modest than what John McEnroe and Martina Navratilova wore during the era.

 

[fireproof78]

this really controversial? I think most people think this.

Think it's the worst might be controversial. I'm sure others have costumes they find worse that an skin tight outfit. And, as you note, it's still utilized in contemporary productions.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Think it's the worst might be controversial. I'm sure others have costumes they find worse that an skin tight outfit. And, as you note, it's still utilized in contemporary productions.

You mean catsuits are controversial, not your opinion?

 

[fireproof78]

You mean catsuits are controversial, not your opinion?

No, I think my opinion that catsuits are the worst costuming decision in Star Trek is probably pretty controversial.

 

[Turtletrekker]

No, I think my opinion that catsuits are the worst costuming decision in Star Trek is probably pretty controversial.

Even the natives of Angel One?

 

[fireproof78]

Even the natives of Angel One?

Yes.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Even the natives of Angel One?

Not a fan of Riker's hairy chest?

 

[Bad Thoughts]

No, I think my opinion that catsuits are the worst costuming decision in Star Trek is probably pretty controversial.

Can we at least agree it was better than Slave Leia: arguably not skin tight, but super revealing, reflecting sexual slavery, and causing the actress distress? (I don't know how people defend it as sexual liberation.)

 

[fireproof78]

Can we at least agree it was better than Slave Leia: not skin tight, but super revealing, reflecting sexual slavery, and causing the actress distress? (I don't know how people defend it as sexual liberation.)

We can agree on that.

But, I try not mix my Stars. Worst in Star Trek.

 

[Paul755]

No, I think my opinion that catsuits are the worst costuming decision in Star Trek is probably pretty controversial.

Oh for sure it is. I think plenty of people would point to the micro-mini skirts and go-go boots of TOS as being worse than catsuits. Especially considering the yoga pants proliferation in current women’s fashion.