What Are the Ways the Star Wars Prequels Could Be Improved???

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  1. Reverend

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    ^Which is exactly what that's almost certainly *not* what happened.

    I mean you'd think a medical droid could recognise terminal stress. Indeed, that fact that he says she's perfectly healthy indicates that something very strange is going on. Even if a medical condition is being caused by emotional of psychological issues there would still be identifiable and treatable physical symptoms.

    The only thing a droid wouldn't be able to account for is the force.
     
  2. The Mighty Mugato of Mim

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    I'd point out that her losing the will/strength/energy to live would not preclude said loss being due to Anakin/Palpatine taking it from her, intentionally or not.
     
  3. Prax

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    So Palpatine was telling the truth.
     
  4. The Mighty Mugato of Mim

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    ...from a certain point of view, yes.

    (Oh, did we do that one already?:lol:)
     
  5. Time is the Fire

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    *sighs*
     
  6. Reverend

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    Just thought I'd bring this up since it's sort of relevant to the theory I was putting forward earlier in the thread: -
    We now have a precedent for not just a force link of some kind being created between two people, but also one created by a third party without the knowledge of either of the other two.

    Now I know Kylo & Rey's link was a mental one, not their life forces being transferred back or forth and they are both force sensitive whereas Padme was not, but I think it's enough to nudge the idea from the realms of pure speculation and artistic interpretation to at least a textual possibility.

    Additionally, we've also now seen that powerful long distance connections can be lethal. Again, the exact circumstances are different, but the basic idea may still be applicable.
     
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  7. Prax

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    I wonder if the idea came from Jaina and Jacen.
     
  8. Reverend

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    I highly doubt it.
     
  9. Prax

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    I don't see why not. They had a special link, and Jacen is very much an inspiration for Kylo.
     
  10. JD

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    If they had chose to go that route, Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver actually could have been a really good Jaina and Jacen.
     
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    Now that is an interesting concept. It makes you wonder which direction the new films would have taken had Disney not completely rebooted the post-ROTJ Expanded Universe and the families the lead characters established. Daisy's Jaina may have become more like Han while Adam's Jacen could have been tweaked somewhat to be less prone to seduction by the Dark Side (initially, anyways), at least while both twins were still under the direct influence of their parents.
     
  12. Qonundrum

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    Facts:

    1. The dialogue for the prequels is oversimplified, bordering on hackneyed
    2. Big-name stars prove that tacky material can't be improved on if the dialogue is so clunky
    (though at least we did get a purple lightsaber as a result)
    3. More people and things whipping light sabers around in a hyperactive frenzy is actually more boring than two people in an intimate struggle
    4. The characters were cardboard cutout stick figures
    5. A lot of the CGI has dated badly
    (though to be fair the prequels were the first to embrace "emerging technology" when it was initially viable. So one could argue the prequels were more environmentally friendly than had they made the same movies with physical models, and CGI is now of age)
     
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    Fair points. Eps IV-VI are not pristine, nor are the 21st century flicks so far. I do enjoy most of the eight chapters, in one form or another, for what they try to do. V and VIII are the best, though.

    The prequels try to expand the universe in different ways, to overtly avoid redoing the OT, even if they end up being the most heavyhanded and clunky of the bunch. The 21st century editions do overlap and redo the OT in varying ways but both have a greater array of characters that make the non-redo scenes stand out far better as a result - see spoiler at the end for example. And VIII in particular also expands the universe and characters in "realistic" ways -- as opposed to the 2D clich├ęs walking around in the OT and PT, though for the time, Leia in the OT probably irked some viewers because she's a female in a command role.

    VIII's least effective scene is when Rey and Ren are in the Emperor's Snoke's red throne room, it's a clear rip of the Emperor/Vader/Luke scenes in ROTJ, only without the length of time we had with the characters to fully be immersed in the struggle. They have to jam the "No, Ren made up his mind" shtick as rabidly as a Red Bull Addict(tm) and it doesn't feel quite authentic.

    Yet the rest of VIII is so far above and beyond that one lifted scene.

    Well, apart from arguably the "force-enabled spacewalk", the only thing missing was taking the ELO song "I'm Alive" and using that as the incidental music instead.


    (Lovely song, that. Underrated movie, too... yet still works as parody fodder, I am so going to get a cup of coffee right now...)
     
  14. Prax

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    Most of what you see in the prequels is miniatures and models.
     
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  15. Time is the Fire

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    The characters are what bother me the most, so I tend to agree,
     
  16. LJones41

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    These are your opinions. And possibly the opinions of others. Why can't people like you stop trying to pass your opinions as facts?


    In my OPINION, if there is one trilogy that needs major improvements, it is the current Sequel Trilogy.
     
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    Nail on the head my friend; Nail on the freakin' head!!

    The Prequel Haters are starting to feel a little threatened with their place in Star Wars Fandom. There's a new family moving into the apartment above theirs: Sequel Haters.

    And we brought pets.
     
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  18. Time is the Fire

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    At least this trilogy can get better, and succeed more than the PT did. If we must compare trilogy to trilogy...:shrug:
     
  19. fonzob1

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    The worst thing about the prequel Trilogy was Jar Jar Binks. The second worst thing was Haden Christiansen's acting (although he was improved in Revenge of the Sith). The third worst thing was Anakin Skywalker being so young in the first film.
     
  20. Ghouleddie74

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    Although one can argue that seeing Anakin as an impoverished slave boy on Tatooine and how he was separated from his mother was a necessary kickoff to the Anakin Skywalker legend, being a child conceived by the midichlorians themselves and initially raised in extreme poverty and hardship on a remote desert world at the very edge of explored space. He was a genuinely good and kind-hearted kid who just wanted to help himself and his mother and any friends he made along the way, and the liberation from slavery inadvertently set him down the path to his eventual fall and transformation into the galaxy's most notorious villain.

    I didn't mind kid Anakin. Frankly, Jake Lloyd did a better job in context of the age he was playing than Hayden did in the next film and had fewer cringeworthy moments. I liked seeing the beginning of the journey, even before he put on his very first set of Jedi Padawan robes.
     
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