What are the implications of extra-galactic super AIs?

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  1. fireproof78

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  2. RAMA

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    So I now know why I remembered it as "extra-galactic". I rewatched all 10 episodes for the first time, and during the episode, it is stated the higher synths have a "Federation" in a powerful alliance spanning galaxies. So they do indeed delve into matters in the physical, extra-galactic scale.

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  3. RAMA

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    You're not understanding what I'm saying at all...


     
  4. Gepard

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    Then maybe do a better job of explaining it?
     
  5. RAMA

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    More likely your tinging my explanations with pre-conceptions rather than bothering to understand it. Fair enough.
     
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    No, that's not it.
     
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  7. Gepard

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    You explain the same thing the exact same way over and over and over, even when it becomes clear that your approach isn't convincing anybody. At least some of that is on you, dude. You could change tactics when it becomes clear it's not working.

    Like, take me, for example: I've moved from dunking on the things you're arguing for (as you're clearly not changing your mind) to pointing out how poorly you're arguing for them. I don't care about changing your mind at this point, I'm now interested in seeing if you can present yourself more persuasively.
     
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  8. Guy Gardener

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    Think back clearly people.

    (I doubt that this is going to work.)

    Have they actually said what the date is?

    Sure they have cell phones, but if they had comic book super science in the 30's and 40's, then of course then should have Cell phones in the 70s or 80s.
     
  9. RAMA

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    That's because how I say it makes complete sense.

    The rest..zzzzzz

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  10. RAMA

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    I'm guessing this was supposed to be profound but it makes no sense.

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  12. Gepard

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    Clearly you've taken my suggestion to heart. Good job. Well done.
     
  13. publiusr

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    The tentacle thing looked Lovecraftian—but to them, perhaps anything organic reeks of Dark Young type corruption...
     
  14. RAMA

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    I guess people think of tentacles in terms of the horror genre?? To me...as I explained earlier, it was possibly a very advanced race's way of reducing basic function and manipulation to it's component parts when they want to manifest themselves physically for large scale handling or destruction...whichever comes first.
     
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  15. Charles Phipps

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    I think in Star Trek it just means, "Another nearly omnipotent race is out there. Don't poke them with a stick."
     
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    So as I've pointed out, tentacles or multi-legged robots/AI are actually very useful for manipulating things, and such robots are being worked on in real life. Marry these multiple appendages further to micro-tentacles and you've really got something. I daresay an advanced AI federation would have no problem with this.

    https://www.seas.harvard.edu/news/2...BNMG5VTGXmm67Gk0BAvgIP5cp6AK_yDuj_uslJm4GG7HE

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150622092348.htm

    Its just another scifi trope at this point, like flying saucers and warp drive. One really need not dig much further than that. If you really want to go back, the Martian War Machines had tentacles.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_machine_(The_War_of_the_Worlds)

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  18. dinnae ken

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    The mecha-centipedes might be feelers or antennae of a much larger cybernetic creature, the first envoy of the AI UN.
     
  19. valkyrie013

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    Maybe this is why the Galactic barrier exists? To protect the galaxy from the AI "Federation" Maybe why there was a "Presevers" in the past because maybe in the past at some point, the AI federation came into our galaxy, and we fought them off, and set up the barrier, and the perservers went to work to reseed life around the galaxy??
    Just a thought.. The Barrier is just one of those things that is sitting there waiting for a good story.
     
  20. fireproof78

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    It has had one in the novels. I believe @Greg Cox had one about the Q continuum using the barrier to protect the galaxy from beings like the energy being in "Day of the Dove."