What actors do you think would be good as the rest of the OG crew?

[Nerys Myk]

I agree. I would have preferred Jess Bush as Colt. Even if it meant a Spock/Colt romance, that they could actually follow through on. Colt was supposed to have an energetic personality with 'strong female drives.' I feel that would play into Jess Bush's extroverted performance quite well. There's some amusing tension between her and Pike as well, that could have been played for laughs.
It also allows her to organically be more involved in the physical action, as Colt was a landing party officer.

The problem with Chapel is she is a dull, submissive character constrained by TOS canon, where she demonstrates an unrequited love for Spock that isn't reciprocated (as Spock has other love interests in TOS). Bush is too good for Chapel.

Colt never impressed me as a character. She was the proto-Rand, a character that went nowhere.

 

[DarKush]

No canon problems with Uhura so far.
African✓
Comm officer.✓
Likes to sing. ✓
Not really seeing where they can go wrong short of killing her off.

Colt? Why? Nurse has more dramatic turns than yeoman. They've made good use of Chapel's science background since episode one. What's Colt going to do? File a report?
Chapel was never married, just engaged. If you're gonna play the canon game get the details right. Spock-Chapel is a "devolving story" with years to go until TOS. What's the problem with charting that again?

Or maybe it won't Years to go until "A Private Little War".

So the parts seen in "The Menagerie" aren't canon????? Man, this canon stuff is confusing. It's more than the pilot. Spock is a bit different in WNMHGB and early season one. He has a rather puckish quality.

My mistake about Chapel being married. I thought she had been married. As for the rest of this, I don't feel like going around in circles about this today. You have your opinion about these things, and I have mine.

 

[TerryTrek]

Colt never impressed me as a character. She was the proto-Rand, a character that went nowhere.

I liked that she went nowhere. Would give Jess Bush enough room to have fun with that character without a predetermined fate for it to line up with TOS. Watching the Chapel of TOS now is jarring. If that's what the SNW version becomes, what a waste.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I liked that she went nowhere. Would give Jess Bush enough room to have fun with that character without a predetermined fate for it to line up with TOS. Watching the Chapel of TOS now is jarring. If that's what the SNW version becomes, what a waste.

Chapel is equally "nowhere". Her advantage is being a medical professional and scientist. Much more story fodder there than with a yeoman.
The chances that Chapel will revert to the one dimensional carboard cutout from TOS is slim to none. That version will rightly assigned to the trash heap along with "no women on the bridge", "no female captains" and other outdated artifacts. The only hold overs will probably be her engagement to Kory, friendship with Spock and maybe some past romantic attachment to him.

 

[TerryTrek]

Haha. Naw man, her 'relationship' (or lack of) with Spock is pretty clearly defined in TOS. It would be hilarious if they were in a mutual sexual relationship in SNW... and then it reverted to that in TOS. Chapel hopelessly pining over Spock unrequited (even Kirk and McCoy make fun of her for that), and Spock perusing other relationships while giving her the cold shoulder.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Haha. Naw man, her 'relationship' (or lack of) with Spock is pretty clearly defined in TOS. It would be hilarious if they were in a mutual sexual relationship in SNW... and then it reverted to that in TOS. Chapel hopelessly pining over Spock unrequited (even Kirk and McCoy make fun of her for that), and Spock perusing other relationships while giving her the cold shoulder.

Like I said. Trash heap.

 

[fireproof78]

Chapel is equally "nowhere". Her advantage is a medical professional and scientist. Buch more story fodder there than with a yeoman.
The chances that Chapel will revert to the one dimensional carboard cutout from TOS is slim to none. That version will rightly assigned to the trash heap along with "no women on the bridge", "no female captains" and other outdated artifacts. The only hold overs will probably be her engagement to Kory, friendship with Spock and maybe some past romantic attachment to him.

I'm wondering what small data points are being held on to for Chapel and why Pike's Yeoman in the Cage is somehow more preferred? She also had unrequited love for Pike.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm wondering what small data points are being held on to for Chapel and why Pike's Yeoman in the Cage is somehow more preferred? She also had unrequited love for Pike.

Ugh. Space Geisha and puppylove.

 

[fireproof78]

Ugh. Space Geisha and puppylove.

As I thought. Of it's time, as you say.

However, can I see Chapel becoming more withdrawn, with the loss of Korby and feeling like Spock is out of reach impacting her mood.

 

[Nerys Myk]

As I thought. Of it's time, as you say.

However, can I see Chapel becoming more withdrawn, with the loss of Korby and feeling like Spock is out of reach impacting her mood.

There is some dramatic potential in that. Not sure SNW will ever get to that point in time. Though some seeds could be laid to imply it.

 

[Kaelef]

The problem with Chapel is she is a dull, submissive character constrained by TOS canon, where she demonstrates an unrequited love for Spock that isn't reciprocated (as Spock has other love interests in TOS). Bush is too good for Chapel.

SNW has shown that's it's willing to do different things with Chapel than TOS did. There's very little OG TOS canon for Chapel - so not much to break, and has already bent if not broken what little there is/was. I agree that this characterization is pretty different from what was in TOS, but I just let go of that and am enjoying this different version of the character with some wispy ties to the original version.

Similarly, it's pretty hard to reconcile the SNW version of Spock with what we saw in TOS, but I'm enjoying it thoroughly and am glad they didn't try to copy/paste what Nimoy did.

 

[TerryTrek]

Robert John Burke as Doctor Boyce.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0121559/?ref_=nm_mv_close

The man who could stand up to Pike and talk some cold, hard sense to him.

 

[fireproof78]

The trouble with TOS is the same that T'Pring had. It comes across more as legendary than real characters all the time now. Kirk, Spock and Scotty all have their legendary status. So, I welcome SNW making them a lot more human than my poor rememberings and imaginings of TOS would grant. Never mind the fact that characters like Chapel, Uhura, and M'Benga were secondary to tertiary characters at best. What is canon about them?

Here's a great exchange from "A Private Little War":
M'BENGA: Don't let these low panel readings bother you. I've seen this before in Vulcans. It's their way of concentrating all their strength, blood, and antibodies onto the injured organs. A form of self-induced hypnosis.
CHAPEL: You mean he's conscious?
M'BENGA: Well, in a sense. He knows we're here and what we're saying, but he can't afford to take his mind from the tissue he's fighting to heal. I suppose he even knows you were holding his hand. (leaves)
CHAPEL: A good nurse always treats her patients that way. It proves she's interested.

Now, I personally can see SNW M'Benga and Chapel having the same exchange except now it has layers of meaning in it.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

There is some dramatic potential in that. Not sure SNW will ever get to that point in time. Though some seeds could be laid to imply it.

I'm fairly sure the showrunners do have a plan regarding Roger Korby. (They already set it up when Christine expressed interest in archaeological medicine.) She meets Korby, they fall head over heels for each other, get engaged, and he goes missing. That will obviously affect her greatly.

Robert John Burke as Doctor Boyce.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0121559/?ref_=nm_mv_close

The man who could stand up to Pike and talk some cold, hard sense to him.

I was quite saddened when his SVU character (Ed Tucker) was killed off. Tucker had MAD chemistry with Olivia Benson. They were a cute couple!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Reading some BTS material about Chapel on Memory Alpha found this

In scripts of "The Naked Time", this character was known as Christine Baker and, later, Christine Ducheau or Christine Ducheaux. She was even referred to with the latter name in the final draft shooting script (dated 28 June 1966), which went on to describe her as "dark-haired… more starkly attractive than beautiful… a woman capable of startling vitality… superb efficiency…"

Sounds more like the SNW take than TOS.
Also every seemed to dislike the character from Justman to Barrett herself. Gene might be the only one how liked

Years later, I realized it wasn't the actress I disliked, it was the role. Nurse Chapel was a wimpy, badly written, and ill-conceived character."

I didn't care that much for Nurse Chapel, to tell you the truth. She really wasn't that exciting a person or that exciting a character for an actress to play."
"I was happy with what I did, except there wasn't that much to do. It wasn't that satisfying, but in those days, I couldn't talk Gene into doing any more; again, I was a woman, and they had already fired me once, so I wasn't given too much to do."

Majel probably would have loved to play the SNW version

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Majel probably would have loved to play the SNW version

Definitely. I could see Christine Chapel growing up to become Troi easier than I could TOS Chapel.

 

[fireproof78]

Sounds more like the SNW take than TOS.
Also every seemed to dislike the character from Justman to Barrett herself. Gene might be the only one how liked

Because it's not really a character. She's a woman pining for her lost fiance and never moved past it. Even in TMP she becomes a doctor but that's a source of gripping for McCoy than actually developing Chapel as a character.

 

[Orac Zen]

Majel probably would have loved to play the SNW version

Agreed. She'd have been damned good, too.