Rather see them chasing down and capturing interstellar drug smugglers from time to time, than using the stuff themselves.
Harry Mudd's "venus drug" was illegal.
Weed and other hobbies the "DIscovery" crew might/should have?
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Harry Mudd's "venus drug" was illegal.
It seems to me that a highly advanced and intelligent future society, having moved far beyond all of our current primitive hangups and strictures, and having endless hours of leisure time due to everything being automated and computer-controlled, would develop recreation in all forms to a highly advanced and sophisticated art. And this would include imaginative ways of directly and selectively stimulating the brain to pure ecstasy and wonderfully bizarre sensory experiences and altered states of consciousness while avoiding the harmful side effects of today's crude substances.
...but that's the stuff of literary science fiction. Heaven forbid Star Trek ever depict a human society that's truly different from us.
Kor
...but that's the stuff of literary science fiction. Heaven forbid Star Trek ever depict a human society that's truly different from us.
Kor
Take that imagination garbage and leave...It seems to me that a highly advanced and intelligent future society, having moved far beyond all of our current primitive hangups and strictures, and having endless hours of leisure time due to everything being automated and computer-controlled, would develop recreation in all forms to a highly advanced and sophisticated art. And this would include imaginative ways of directly and selectively stimulating the brain to pure ecstasy and wonderfully bizarre sensory experiences and altered states of consciousness while avoiding the harmful side effects of today's crude substances.
...but that's the stuff of literary science fiction. Heaven forbid Star Trek ever depict a human society that's truly different from us.
Kor
To be fair, there's less evidence that humans in the time of trek use the toilet than there is for the use of drugs.
D'oh.... McCoy's pills in STIV, and he just happened to have one. It all makes sense!
So what rating that we expect Star Trek should have? G, PG, PG-13, R, or NC-17? It's not about that future people should smoke or not, but what about if this show will be watched by children or not. If they disallow Children to watch it, then just do whatever you like. Explicit gore, torture, mutilation, sex, hardcore sex, smoke, dirty language, strong language, swearing, etc. You don't have to justify whatever future people do that or not. They are, if they want to do it.
Because human nature never change. The only concern is just the target audience that they aim. Children are inside that scope or not.
Because human nature never change. The only concern is just the target audience that they aim. Children are inside that scope or not.
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Who is this nebulous "they" that would be preventing children from watching?
Roddenberry's Vision (tm) was that human nature will change, so that everybody is a sanctimonious, evolved being who is significantly advanced beyond us mouth-breathing primitives of the present day.
And there will be love instructors.
Kor
Why would children be impacted on how drugs are dealt with? If we accept that weed is a okay thing just like we accept that being gay is okay thing, even though in past a lot of people didn't feel that way then it means that it's okay and even a good thing to expose children to these idea's. Also let's not forget that the ides of protecting children to adult content has always been a mixed bag. The idea that cuss words for example is going to harm them is just a silly argument. I mean there are somethings that are to much but i'm not sure if drugs is that thing that to adult for older children.
Jason
Let's just expose children only to violent phaser /disruptor disintegrations so that no one will ever have an objection. Nudity and/or social issues should remain unacceptable.
Is phaser / distruptor disintegration show explicit gore? In the show, I see that the victims just vanished,
The TV show maker? CBS?
Just decide what rating tag that Star Trek Discovery should have. PG, PG-13, R or NC-17.
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Gore isn't a bad thing. Just look what they did with the TNG ep "Conspiracy."The fact that you have a phaser involved basically lesson's the impact of the gore on children just like killing a alien is always going to be less graphic than killing a human. There is a huge difference between the soldier being killed by Nazi with a knife in "Saving Private Ryan" than having somene stab a zombie in "Walking Dead."
Jason
Well he did invent the internet.
And that makes the killing of people appropriate viewing content for children, exactly how?
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I started watching TOS as a child. Clearly, I was scarred for life.
Seriously, I grew up watching KING KONG, FRANKENSTEIN, THE WAR OF THE WORLDS, THE CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON, THE FLY, TARANTULA, THE TIME MACHINE, JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS, HOUSE OF WAX, TWENTY THOUSAND LEAGUES BENEATH THE SEA, etc. If I survived the Morlocks eating the Eloi for dinner, Martian war machines incinerating mankind by the thousands, and armies of sword-wielding skeletons, I suspect today's kids can survive a death-ray or two.
(Granted, my parents didn't let me watch the original PLANET OF THE APES until I was ten. And they vetoed ROSEMARY'S BABY . . . imagine that!)
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Got to be careful here. Being gay is always okay. Weed is NOT always okay, just like anything pleasurable--fine Belgian quads for me--it can be abused.
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I'm reminded of a caption under a Halo screenshot: "It's ok to shoot aliens, Nazis and zombies because they're bad."
Seriously, the idea that every kid is affected by violence the same way is nonsense. Children are going to learn a lot based upon what the adults present as acceptable. See Bandura for some research on the topic.
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