WATCHMEN - Movie Discussion and Grading (SPOILERS)

[Admiral Buzzkill]

It's a shame that the movie hasn't done better at the box office, but not entirely unexpected.

Wonderful, gorgeous movie that people will talk about for a long time. I'll just look forward to buying the extended director's cut.

 

[Dream]

It's a shame that the movie hasn't done better at the box office, but not entirely unexpected.

Wonderful, gorgeous movie that people will talk about for a long time. I'll just look forward to buying the extended director's cut.

That's an awesome avatar you have there.

Did that scene actually happen on Family Guy or is the avatar fanart?

 

[Norrin Radd]

It's sad to say that people were walking out of the theatre before the end. I don't often see that.

 

[Caligula]

That's an awesome avatar you have there.

Speaking of awesome avatars, who's the chick?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

It's sad to say that people were walking out of the theatre before the end. I don't often see that.

I have a couple of friends who walked out after two hours plus of "The Dark Knight." One said that the damned thing just kept ending and then refusing to end.

I know, I know, it was God's Comic Book Movie but I must say I empathize.

I don't think I've ever walked out on a movie...the closest I've come was "Dick Tracy," which was just a muddled bore.

It's a shame that the movie hasn't done better at the box office, but not entirely unexpected.

Wonderful, gorgeous movie that people will talk about for a long time. I'll just look forward to buying the extended director's cut.

That's an awesome avatar you have there.

Did that scene actually happen on Family Guy or is the avatar fanart?

Thanks. I just whipped it up the other evening. "Doctor Quahog." It should happen on "Family Guy," just because it's so random. Chris as Nite Owl, Brian as Rorschach, Peter as the Comedian.

 

[Dream]

That's an awesome avatar you have there.

Speaking of awesome avatars, who's the chick?

Ashley Greene. She recently played a Vampire that could see the future.

 

[galleywest]

Saw it, didn't like it. Apparently I had to read the comic to understand the movie, which makes it a poor movie, in my opinion. If it can't stand up on its own, what's the point? I gave it a D, which was completely honest.

Too many problems:

The Comedian is given NO redeeming qualities in the movie, so why exactly do I care that he died? More importantly, since every flashback concerning him is completely unflattering (with the possible exception of the Moloch flashback, in which he is merely drunk and not attempting to rape or kill anyone), why do the Watchmen care? What is Silk Spectre's power? Sleeping with other masked vigilantes? She's good at that, at least! The actress portraying her was horrible. Why do they have all this magic mojo electronic stuff but Ozymandias has a piece of shit computer with 3.5" disks in his office? Why does Laurie go nuts at learning The Comedian is her father when she hasn't expressed much opinion of him one way or another throughout the rest of the movie? Who did Nixon's makeup? They should be fired immediately. And do they have freaking super powers or what?! The movie is ambiguous on this point, as they seem to keep doing doing strangely "super" things like catching bullets or beating up about 27 guys at a time. And is Rorshach taking parkour classes down at the Y or what?

I've gone over this again and again with some (patient, bless them) friends, but the bald fact of the matter is that for me, someone who didn't read the book, the movie was long, confusing, boring, and incredibly violent (and I am not generally bothered by gruesome and macabre stuff). And the sex scenes! Over-the-top much?? Although, how else could Silk Spectre show off her...er, powers.

I can't believe people are picking on it for not being enough like the book. If it were any more of an inside reference to the book, it would be the book.

 

[Dream]

It's sad to say that people were walking out of the theatre before the end. I don't often see that.

I have a couple of friends who walked out after two hours plus of "The Dark Knight." One said that the damned thing just kept ending and then refusing to end.

I know, I know, it was God's Comic Book Movie but I must say I empathize.

I don't think I've ever walked out on a movie...the closest I've come was "Dick Tracy," which was just a muddled bore.

I never walk out from movies. No matter how crappy I refuse to "waste" my hard earned cash by walking out. I have to stay until the bitter end.

Thanks. I just whipped it up the other evening. "Doctor Quahog." It should happen on "Family Guy," just because it's so random. Chris as Nite Owl, Brian as Rorschach, Peter as the Comedian.

That would be cool to see. Maybe someday.

 

[Norrin Radd]

The Comedian is given NO redeeming qualities in the movie, so why exactly do I care that he died? More importantly, since every flashback concerning him is completely unflattering (with the possible exception of the Moloch flashback, in which he is merely drunk and not attempting to rape or kill anyone), why do the Watchmen care?

Well, the sense I get from the book is that it's only really Rorschach who genuinely cares. The rest only care to the degree that the same person who murdered him might be after them.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I can't believe people are picking on it for not being enough like the book. If it were any more of an inside reference to the book, it would be the book.

How do you know that, if you didn't read the book?

The wonderful thing about this story being what it is, is that the commercial success or failure of the film is pretty unimportant. Some people think "Blade Runner" and "2001" are brilliant movies and some people think they're opaque and pretentious, poorly told stories; none of these were conceived entirely as completely conventional commercial narrative entertainment by their directors and so the fact that they don't deliver what's expected of conventional commercial entertainment is pretty meaningless. The two older films are still known and admired decades after being made, and "Watchmen" doubtless will be as well.

 

[Australis]

Starship, I agree with you on most things, but that's one I can't. The book may stay around, but I think the film will be gone inside 10 years. Maybe 5. If it does continue, it'll only be as an animated interpretation of the book.

 

[Caligula]

I don't think I've ever walked out on a movie...the closest I've come was "Dick Tracy," which was just a muddled bore.

Wow, really? That's one thing I've always loved about this BBS.... How the differences in each of our opinions never cease to amaze me. I've loved Dick Tracy ever since I saw it theatrically when I was just eight years old.

In my case, the closest I ever came was League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Either that or Deuces Wild.

Ashley Greene. She recently played a Vampire that could see the future.

Thanks. I thought I recognized her, but the shorter hair threw me off. I presume you're talking about her role in Twilight, yes? Haven't seen it, myself, though I knew she was part of the cast.

 

[USS Mariner]

I figured out what bugged me about the actor that played Ozzy, he has some kind of alight speech impediment. Like a light lisp or affectation or something. It bugged me throughout the movie.

It wasn't a speech impediment. It was a slight German accent. The idea is that he adopts an American Midwestern accent when speaking in public, and reverts to a natural German accent when speaking with friends in private.

That wasn't a German accent. That was fucking awful. It's clear that he's never worked with or heard Germans speak...outside of Disney's propaganda films.

Doohan did better with his Scottish accent, and that sounds Pakistani at worst.

 

[Bad Bishop]

Starship, I agree with you on most things, but that's one I can't. The book may stay around, but I think the film will be gone inside 10 years. Maybe 5. If it does continue, it'll only be as an animated interpretation of the book.

Watchmen--The Complete Motion Comic is already out.

As for the film being "gone" in 5 to 10 years, what do you mean?

 

[Dream]

Ashley Greene. She recently played a Vampire that could see the future.

Thanks. I thought I recognized her, but the shorter hair threw me off. I presume you're talking about her role in Twilight, yes? Haven't seen it, myself, though I knew she was part of the cast.

Yeah. Ashley had a very small role in the movie. However her character is expected to have a much bigger role in the sequel. I think she is one of the few actresses that look better with short hair than long hair.

 

[Praetor]

I figured out what bugged me about the actor that played Ozzy, he has some kind of alight speech impediment. Like a light lisp or affectation or something. It bugged me throughout the movie.

It wasn't a speech impediment. It was a slight German accent. The idea is that he adopts an American Midwestern accent when speaking in public, and reverts to a natural German accent when speaking with friends in private.

That wasn't a German accent. That was fucking awful. It's clear that he's never worked with or heard Germans speak...outside of Disney's propaganda films.

Doohan did better with his Scottish accent, and that sounds Pakistani at worst.

I have to agree.

 

[USS Mariner]

I do have to admit, when I read the comic now, Haley is Rorschach's voice.

 

[Dream]

Starship, I agree with you on most things, but that's one I can't. The book may stay around, but I think the film will be gone inside 10 years. Maybe 5. If it does continue, it'll only be as an animated interpretation of the book.

Watchmen--The Complete Motion Comic is already out.

As for the film being "gone" in 5 to 10 years, what do you mean?

Obviously he means in 5 years every single copy of the movie will be burning in fire and everyone that saw it will have suddenly forgotten about it.

 

[DarthPipes]

Ashley Greene. She recently played a Vampire that could see the future.

Thanks. I thought I recognized her, but the shorter hair threw me off. I presume you're talking about her role in Twilight, yes? Haven't seen it, myself, though I knew she was part of the cast.

Yeah. Ashley had a very small role in the movie. However her character is expected to have a much bigger role in the sequel. I think she is one of the few actresses that look better with short hair then long hair.

You know, I read the actor who played Gaeta on BSG had a brief role in the film too.

About Laurie getting the gun...that's a question I wondered when I read the comic. She just pulled it out of nowhere. My only guess is she must have taken it off of a dead cop in NYC.

 

[USS Mariner]

Nah, it's pretty clear in the comic that she pulls it from one of the bodies.