Are you counting the women that Kirk kisses or the ones that he gets to know in a more... intimate way. Because if you're only counting the second sort you're in for a bitter disappointment.
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^Really? So Kirk's reputation has preceded him? I think I'll count a kiss.
Balance of Terror:
I liked this episode. It was very suspenceful, and Mark Lenard's performance was great. (Though it was a bit weird to see Spock's father in command of a Romulan starship. In "A Less Perfect Union", a story in the "Infinity's Prism" anthology of Alternate Universe stories, the Romulans actually use this guy's resemblance to Sarek to infiltrate a conference about Earth joining the Interstellar Coalition and kidnap T'pol) I hope that the Romulan superweapon returns later on.
There are two pretty weird things about the episode: why is Styles (I wonder if it's the same guy as that idiotic captain from "The Search For Spock") so hateful to Romulans for a war that's been over for 116 years, even if his grandfather (Who was also pretty annoying in "Kobayashi Maru") died in it. It would be like a Frenchman who still hates Germans for the Franco-Prussian war.
When both ships are hiding and waiting for each other, everyone feels the need to whisper for some reason. Sound can't travel through space, and even if it could (And for some reason we wouldn't all be deaf from the immense noise the Sun would make) there's still thousands of kilometres, as well as two thick starship hulls between them.
I liked the wedding scene, and it was very sad that the one redshirt to die was the guy who would get married.
Redshirt Score: 21
Kirk Score: 0
Score: 6,5
Balance of Terror:
I liked this episode. It was very suspenceful, and Mark Lenard's performance was great. (Though it was a bit weird to see Spock's father in command of a Romulan starship. In "A Less Perfect Union", a story in the "Infinity's Prism" anthology of Alternate Universe stories, the Romulans actually use this guy's resemblance to Sarek to infiltrate a conference about Earth joining the Interstellar Coalition and kidnap T'pol) I hope that the Romulan superweapon returns later on.
There are two pretty weird things about the episode: why is Styles (I wonder if it's the same guy as that idiotic captain from "The Search For Spock") so hateful to Romulans for a war that's been over for 116 years, even if his grandfather (Who was also pretty annoying in "Kobayashi Maru") died in it. It would be like a Frenchman who still hates Germans for the Franco-Prussian war.
When both ships are hiding and waiting for each other, everyone feels the need to whisper for some reason. Sound can't travel through space, and even if it could (And for some reason we wouldn't all be deaf from the immense noise the Sun would make) there's still thousands of kilometres, as well as two thick starship hulls between them.
I liked the wedding scene, and it was very sad that the one redshirt to die was the guy who would get married.
Redshirt Score: 21
Kirk Score: 0
Score: 6,5
Trust me, that's not nearly as strange or uncommon as you think it is (not the Germans and the French specifically... I don't know about them... but people going on about wars that happened 60 years ago, or 100+ years ago, or 600 years ago, and still hating other nations for whatever happened then...
)I would certainly give BoT a higher rating than 6,5. What else did you dislike about it, other than the whispering?
I was quite upset by it when I managed to watch TOS for the first time last year. Being generous, I counted three occasions where he slept with a woman, starting very late into season 2. I thought he was finally going to get some in Gamesters of Triskelion, but then he went and punched her in the face.
What are Little Girls Made of?
Am I going delusional, or did this episode actually feature Kirk attacking the lovechild of Agent 47 and Lurch with a huge dildo made of ice?
I didn't like this episode. Didn't hate it either. I simply didn't care for it, though Agent Lurch was a lot of fun to watch, especially when he simply picked up Kirk as if he were some abandoned luggage at an airport, and when he turned on the mad scientist. The girl was pretty hot, but if I were the mad scientist, I'd have kept her out of my girlfriend's sight, or at least have had her wear some decent clothes.
I also liked that the episode featured a secondary character in a pretty big role.
Redshirt Score: 23
Kirk Score: 1
Score: 4,5
Am I going delusional, or did this episode actually feature Kirk attacking the lovechild of Agent 47 and Lurch with a huge dildo made of ice?
I didn't like this episode. Didn't hate it either. I simply didn't care for it, though Agent Lurch was a lot of fun to watch, especially when he simply picked up Kirk as if he were some abandoned luggage at an airport, and when he turned on the mad scientist. The girl was pretty hot, but if I were the mad scientist, I'd have kept her out of my girlfriend's sight, or at least have had her wear some decent clothes.
I also liked that the episode featured a secondary character in a pretty big role.
Redshirt Score: 23
Kirk Score: 1
Score: 4,5
I didn't mean that I thought it was a stupid idea of the writers because people like him don't exist, I meant that he (and people like him) should get over it. It happaned a long time ago, and most Romulans who are alive in his time weren't even born during the Romulan War. Under Franco, languages of countries that had fought a war with Spain once were apparently not allowed to be thought in Spain. So not many languages remained.Trust me, that's not nearly as strange or uncommon as you think it is (not the Germans and the French specifically... I don't know about them... but people going on about wars that happened 60 years ago, or 100+ years ago, or 600 years ago, and still hating other nations for whatever happened then...
I didn't dislike anything else about it. 6,5 means Quite Good, which I though the episode deserved.
You mean you didn't know about Kirk's rock penis?Am I going delusional, or did this episode actually feature Kirk attacking the lovechild of Agent 47 and Lurch with a huge dildo made of ice?
I believe Cogley used to have an avatar of rock penis violating the Doomsday Machine, but it was removed for being tasteless. I'd link to the gif, but I don't want to get in trouble, so do an image search. (And for the love of god, set SafeSearch to strict!)
You mean you didn't know about Kirk's rock penis?Am I going delusional, or did this episode actually feature Kirk attacking the lovechild of Agent 47 and Lurch with a huge dildo made of ice?
I believe Cogley used to have an avatar of rock penis violating the Doomsday Machine, but it was removed for being tasteless. I'd link to the gif, but I don't want to get in trouble, so do an image search. (And for the love of god, set SafeSearch to strict!)
http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=86869
Dagger of the Mind:
I have kind of mixed feelings towards this one. The first half was rather bad (Increased by the fact that I laready knew about the neural neutralizer, as it appears extensively in the Mirror Universe books, were Kirk uses it to kill Pine, and later on Spock uses it to make himself Emperor) and the second half was pretty good. Dr. Adams got pretty scary (I wonder what happened to the second guy in the torture room that Kirk knocked out btw. Did he wake up earlier and ran off?), and Dr. Van Gelder was a pretty convincing maniac. Dr. Noël was annoying, but hot.
Redshirts: 23
Kirk Score: 2
Score: 5,5
I have kind of mixed feelings towards this one. The first half was rather bad (Increased by the fact that I laready knew about the neural neutralizer, as it appears extensively in the Mirror Universe books, were Kirk uses it to kill Pine, and later on Spock uses it to make himself Emperor) and the second half was pretty good. Dr. Adams got pretty scary (I wonder what happened to the second guy in the torture room that Kirk knocked out btw. Did he wake up earlier and ran off?), and Dr. Van Gelder was a pretty convincing maniac. Dr. Noël was annoying, but hot.
Redshirts: 23
Kirk Score: 2
Score: 5,5
Just a quick post to say I'm really enjoying this thread, apenpaap. Please keep it up, because I'll be following it. 
I also like your frequent allusions to the books and how they expand upon the canonical story.
I also like your frequent allusions to the books and how they expand upon the canonical story.
Miri:
This episode was enjoyable, but it had lots of stupid things in it that seriously detracted from the story:
Why was the planet an exact duplicate of Earth? This was never explained, and it served no role in the story either, except distraction from the real issue.
If these kids are humans, and they've been on the planet for 300 years, then they must've been there at least since 1966. How did they get there when humanity hadn't even traveled to the Moon?
How did their foodsupplies last for 300 years? I don't think these kids have been doing much in the agriculture department, so that means there must've been stockpiles of something that you can keep for 300 years. Assuming there were 50 kids (That seems to be approximatly the number we saw), and each kid eats 400 grams a day (Rather low amount), that means there must've been 50x0,4x365,25x300=2191500 kilos of whatever they ate. That's a pretty huge stockpile.
"We've got 5 hours, 11 minutes left!" that sort of thing always annoys me in Trek, when they can tell the exact moment someone will drop dead from disease.
I also find it implausible that these kids would act so kidlike after 300 years. Kids's bodies and brain-chemistry or not, they still have 300 years of live experience.
Also, the original colonists were rather stupid for designing their longetivity potion so that it would affect kids too. Just consider the fact that if they had succeeded, and a couple got a baby, they would be cleaning diapers for about 2400 years.
The redshirts in this episode completly vanished for about 3/4th of it.
Though the episode is completly stupid, it was still fun to watch, in a "Move Along Home" kind of way. I liked the scene were Kirk convinced the kids (How did their clothes manage to be so intact after 300 years, btw) to help him. It reminded me a bit of this great scene with Andrew Robinson.
"I never get involved with older women, Mr. Spock." yeah, I knew you were gonna say that. Still funny, though.
Redshirts: 23
Kirk Score: 2
Score: 4
This episode was enjoyable, but it had lots of stupid things in it that seriously detracted from the story:
Why was the planet an exact duplicate of Earth? This was never explained, and it served no role in the story either, except distraction from the real issue.
If these kids are humans, and they've been on the planet for 300 years, then they must've been there at least since 1966. How did they get there when humanity hadn't even traveled to the Moon?
How did their foodsupplies last for 300 years? I don't think these kids have been doing much in the agriculture department, so that means there must've been stockpiles of something that you can keep for 300 years. Assuming there were 50 kids (That seems to be approximatly the number we saw), and each kid eats 400 grams a day (Rather low amount), that means there must've been 50x0,4x365,25x300=2191500 kilos of whatever they ate. That's a pretty huge stockpile.
"We've got 5 hours, 11 minutes left!" that sort of thing always annoys me in Trek, when they can tell the exact moment someone will drop dead from disease.
I also find it implausible that these kids would act so kidlike after 300 years. Kids's bodies and brain-chemistry or not, they still have 300 years of live experience.
Also, the original colonists were rather stupid for designing their longetivity potion so that it would affect kids too. Just consider the fact that if they had succeeded, and a couple got a baby, they would be cleaning diapers for about 2400 years.
The redshirts in this episode completly vanished for about 3/4th of it.
Though the episode is completly stupid, it was still fun to watch, in a "Move Along Home" kind of way. I liked the scene were Kirk convinced the kids (How did their clothes manage to be so intact after 300 years, btw) to help him. It reminded me a bit of this great scene with Andrew Robinson.
"I never get involved with older women, Mr. Spock." yeah, I knew you were gonna say that. Still funny, though.
Redshirts: 23
Kirk Score: 2
Score: 4
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The Conscience of the King:
I liked this episode, but it did a bit too much Shakespeare references for my taste. The actor who played Kodos was very good, and Shatner really did his best on this one too. It was pretty impressive tgo see Kirk so effected by the whole thing that he would use the girl like that. It was also pretty impressive that Kodos's death made me feel sad, considering he killed 4000 people, among the Hoshi.
When Spock explained the situation to McCoy in the corridor, it was a bit reminiscent of Garak's monologues. Which is a good thing, of course.
We also got another song from Uhura. It was very beautiful, but I liked her song in "Charlie X" even better.
I was a bit puzzled by the allusions that if it turned out the actor was Kodos, then Kirk would have to kill him.
Shouldn't he just arrest him and give him a trial? I don't think the Federation even has capital punishment, as heavy criminals like Ariq Soong and the Female Founder always ended up in prison.
Does Bones have some power that allows him to see alternate universes or something?
The show's theme song being played at the party was a really nice touch.
Redshirts: 23
Kirk Score: 3
Score: 7
I liked this episode, but it did a bit too much Shakespeare references for my taste. The actor who played Kodos was very good, and Shatner really did his best on this one too. It was pretty impressive tgo see Kirk so effected by the whole thing that he would use the girl like that. It was also pretty impressive that Kodos's death made me feel sad, considering he killed 4000 people, among the Hoshi.
When Spock explained the situation to McCoy in the corridor, it was a bit reminiscent of Garak's monologues. Which is a good thing, of course.
We also got another song from Uhura. It was very beautiful, but I liked her song in "Charlie X" even better.
I was a bit puzzled by the allusions that if it turned out the actor was Kodos, then Kirk would have to kill him.
Shouldn't he just arrest him and give him a trial? I don't think the Federation even has capital punishment, as heavy criminals like Ariq Soong and the Female Founder always ended up in prison.Spock and McCoy said:
Does Bones have some power that allows him to see alternate universes or something?The show's theme song being played at the party was a really nice touch.
Redshirts: 23
Kirk Score: 3
Score: 7
When I first watched TOS last year I found it slow going until this episode, this was the first one to truly capture my imagination for some reason. It may not be the best episode of the show, but it is probably my favourite of TOS because it sold me on the characters and encouraged me to keep watching.
It's also Ron Moore's favourite, supposedly. Take of that what you will.
It's also Ron Moore's favourite, supposedly. Take of that what you will.
The Galileo Seven:
My feelings about this episode are a bit mixed. I found the first two-thirds of it pretty boring, but the final 15 minutes were OK. It was pretty cool to see a shuttle (Since I have the remastered version I got to see some pretty space-scenes with it), and I liked how Spock remained calm and logical even though the rest of the crew (especially Boma) was harrassing him over it.
When the crew had the discussion in the shuttle about the fact that 3 of them would have to remain behind, and then the scene switched to the redshirts, my first thought was "Well, looks like only one person will have to stay behind."
Spock's decision to use the fuel as flares was considered very emotional in the episode, but I thought it was very logical. If it doesn't work, they lose an hour of their lives. If it does, they gain 876576 hours (Assuming they each live another 100 years, as they were all rather young and there's Spock who can reach 250 to up the average). So even if it only had a 1.14 x 10^-4 % chance of success it would've been logical.
The blue-suited guy on the bridge was very annoying. Yes, deciding to go exploring when you need to be delivering medicine may not be the best idea ever, but that guy was constantly saying "Told you so!" and counting down until they would have to leave the crew behind.
I liked the fact that the aliens were so large. We have too little difference in alien height. Just about every alien species we've met is between the Ferengi's 1.40 m and the Hirogen's 2.20 m.
Redshirts: 26
Kirk Score: 3
Score: 5
My feelings about this episode are a bit mixed. I found the first two-thirds of it pretty boring, but the final 15 minutes were OK. It was pretty cool to see a shuttle (Since I have the remastered version I got to see some pretty space-scenes with it), and I liked how Spock remained calm and logical even though the rest of the crew (especially Boma) was harrassing him over it.
When the crew had the discussion in the shuttle about the fact that 3 of them would have to remain behind, and then the scene switched to the redshirts, my first thought was "Well, looks like only one person will have to stay behind."
Spock's decision to use the fuel as flares was considered very emotional in the episode, but I thought it was very logical. If it doesn't work, they lose an hour of their lives. If it does, they gain 876576 hours (Assuming they each live another 100 years, as they were all rather young and there's Spock who can reach 250 to up the average). So even if it only had a 1.14 x 10^-4 % chance of success it would've been logical.
The blue-suited guy on the bridge was very annoying. Yes, deciding to go exploring when you need to be delivering medicine may not be the best idea ever, but that guy was constantly saying "Told you so!" and counting down until they would have to leave the crew behind.
I liked the fact that the aliens were so large. We have too little difference in alien height. Just about every alien species we've met is between the Ferengi's 1.40 m and the Hirogen's 2.20 m.
Redshirts: 26
Kirk Score: 3
Score: 5
Court Martial:
I liked this epidoes. I really hadn't expected the guy to turn up alive, though it being a setup was fairly obvious. My money was on the prosecutor being the setupper, though.
I found it pretty funny when Samuel T. Cogley turned up. I thought Samuel T. Cogley was the actual name of the TrekBBS poster with the same name. He was a pretty funny guy, though he wasn't a very good lawyer, seeing as he didn't really start his case until Spock came with last-minute evidence.
At the beginning of the court martial, when the Commodore asked Kirk how he plead and Kirk answered "Not guilty.", the music went extremely dramatic in a very funny way.
Redshirts: 26
Kirk Score: 4
Score: 7
I liked this epidoes. I really hadn't expected the guy to turn up alive, though it being a setup was fairly obvious. My money was on the prosecutor being the setupper, though.
I found it pretty funny when Samuel T. Cogley turned up. I thought Samuel T. Cogley was the actual name of the TrekBBS poster with the same name. He was a pretty funny guy, though he wasn't a very good lawyer, seeing as he didn't really start his case until Spock came with last-minute evidence.
At the beginning of the court martial, when the Commodore asked Kirk how he plead and Kirk answered "Not guilty.", the music went extremely dramatic in a very funny way.
Redshirts: 26
Kirk Score: 4
Score: 7
About Earth-like worlds:
There's the theory of parallel evolution. Basically, in a similar planet, people developed similarly. In TOS, it was basically an excuse to use sets from other Desilu productions to save money. Don't let it distract you too much because it'll be a problem when they start having a budget crunch.
There's the theory of parallel evolution. Basically, in a similar planet, people developed similarly. In TOS, it was basically an excuse to use sets from other Desilu productions to save money. Don't let it distract you too much because it'll be a problem when they start having a budget crunch.
Court Martial has some good scenes in it. Doesn't this episode have a lounge style version of the TOS theme in the bar? similar to the version heard in conscience of the king?
The Menagerie:
It's strange that I find this episode more interesting then "The Cage", as the entire episode is basically just an excuse for showing the pilot. Unfortunatly, as I have already seen "The Cage, and just a few weeks ago, I remembered much of the plot details, which was kind of annoying. I also found it very weird to be watching Kirk and Spock watching Star Trek.
The story is a pretty good, and seeing Pike as a vegetable really saddened me.The scene were Spock told Bones to arrest him was very funny, especially the way McCoy ordered the redshirt to arrest spock. I also liked the return of the silly elevatordoorsoundeffect. Unfortunatly the ending was a complete deus ex machina with Starfleet command deciding not to punish Spock. "Hey Captain! We know Mr. Spock has commandeered your ship to commit a capital offense, but since he's a main character all charges are dropped!"
At the end, when Spock brought Pike to the transporter he arrived on the planet rather quickly.
It's really pretty funny that in each of the three episodes/movies he appears in Pike is played by a different actor (Rather coincidentially, there is an interview with the guy who played him in this episode in the newsthingie now).
Redshirts: 26
Kirk Score: 4
Score: 6,5
It's strange that I find this episode more interesting then "The Cage", as the entire episode is basically just an excuse for showing the pilot. Unfortunatly, as I have already seen "The Cage, and just a few weeks ago, I remembered much of the plot details, which was kind of annoying. I also found it very weird to be watching Kirk and Spock watching Star Trek.
The story is a pretty good, and seeing Pike as a vegetable really saddened me.The scene were Spock told Bones to arrest him was very funny, especially the way McCoy ordered the redshirt to arrest spock. I also liked the return of the silly elevatordoorsoundeffect. Unfortunatly the ending was a complete deus ex machina with Starfleet command deciding not to punish Spock. "Hey Captain! We know Mr. Spock has commandeered your ship to commit a capital offense, but since he's a main character all charges are dropped!"
At the end, when Spock brought Pike to the transporter he arrived on the planet rather quickly.
It's really pretty funny that in each of the three episodes/movies he appears in Pike is played by a different actor (Rather coincidentially, there is an interview with the guy who played him in this episode in the newsthingie now).
Redshirts: 26
Kirk Score: 4
Score: 6,5
Shore Leave:
I really like how silly this episode gets, and I was laughing through the opening credits thanks to the white rabbit. The bit at the beginning where the Yeoman (It seems there's a new one every week now) massages Kirk on the bridge was rather strange. Could you imagine Kirk or Sisko getting a massage on the bridge? (Or even Janeway or Archer?) Anyway, the episode was very funny, especially Finnegan. Unlikely though it seems, I wonder whether "Cupcake" from Trek XI is that universe's version of him.
At the end, when they were all ordered not to think was kind of reminiscent of this scene from the Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy. McCoy showing up alive and with some "companions" was also pretty funny, in a hidden camera program kind of way.
Redshirts: 26
Kirk Score: 4 (Since Root was only an illusion she doesn't count)
Score: 7
I really like how silly this episode gets, and I was laughing through the opening credits thanks to the white rabbit. The bit at the beginning where the Yeoman (It seems there's a new one every week now) massages Kirk on the bridge was rather strange. Could you imagine Kirk or Sisko getting a massage on the bridge? (Or even Janeway or Archer?) Anyway, the episode was very funny, especially Finnegan. Unlikely though it seems, I wonder whether "Cupcake" from Trek XI is that universe's version of him.
At the end, when they were all ordered not to think was kind of reminiscent of this scene from the Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy. McCoy showing up alive and with some "companions" was also pretty funny, in a hidden camera program kind of way.
Redshirts: 26
Kirk Score: 4 (Since Root was only an illusion she doesn't count)
Score: 7
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