If you're referring to the story I think you are, House of M, it was published 16 years ago so there's no need for spoiler code. And, yeah, Wanda went nuts and achieved Dark Phoenix level power and was rewriting reality on a whim.
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That's House of M from 2005/2006ish. There have already been Easter eggs in the show pointing to it.
"Error Code"?
"ERROR CODE"?
"ERROR CODE"?
Huh. I wonder what Monica's beef with Carol is?
There was a lot to take in this week and I've been up for about 20 hours. I'm going to get a full night's sleep, rewatch it again tomorrow and be back some coherent thoughts.
There was a lot to take in this week and I've been up for about 20 hours. I'm going to get a full night's sleep, rewatch it again tomorrow and be back some coherent thoughts.
I assume it probably has to do with how much Carol has been gone offworld since the Captain Marvel movie happened. Possibly also to do with Carol (probably) being off holding the universe together when Maria Rambeau got sick and eventually died (and with Monica unable to be there, maybe Maria was all alone).
Also, I'm not sure exactly how it would be explained in-universe, but is it just me or did we just see Monica get her superpowers? Her medical scans are all blank. Sounds plausible for a character who can become light instead of matter at will.
Another thing I noticed this episode - there was a lot of speculation about whether the hydra advertisement segments pointed to a return of hydra trying to manipulate her, but after seeing the Lagos brand paper towl thing I think the 'ads' are really just a highlight reel of Wanda's greatest regrets/shame.
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Uhm... new theory:
Is Wanda tapping into Multiverse to manipulate her little pocket dimension?
Instead of creating, she is borrowing?
That would explain the special guest at the end!
Is Wanda tapping into Multiverse to manipulate her little pocket dimension?
Instead of creating, she is borrowing?
That would explain the special guest at the end!
I freaking called it.
Mom is dead, but Aunt Carol is immortally youthful.
God, is there any way you can switch that around?
Mom is dead, but Aunt Carol is immortally youthful.
God, is there any way you can switch that around?
I'm not going to lie, for a second there I thought it was Carol at the door. That would have been both awesome and a most likely the end of the show, because nothing could follow *that* showdown.
Side note: how does Woo know the play by play of the Endgame battle? I mean it was in the grounds of the Avenger's facility which was 1) miles from any bystanders, and 2) levelled and thus rendered devoid of things like security cameras. I suppose SWORD could have had satellites with eyes on, because: Sentient Weapon Observation...But why release that footage, even to the FBI?
Though yes, this appears to be a whole other level if she pulled a person from Earth-10005's temporal probability curve....and it just now while writing that occurred to me that the reason it's *that* Pietro and not a version of her actual brother is because this sitcom is in the 80's, which is synchronous with his universe's timeline.
ETA: just got a mental image of what would have happened if Wade got pulled in along with him. She'd have to bleep him out ever 5 seconds, but I think it would oddly fit the vibe of the show and his character.
Side note: how does Woo know the play by play of the Endgame battle? I mean it was in the grounds of the Avenger's facility which was 1) miles from any bystanders, and 2) levelled and thus rendered devoid of things like security cameras. I suppose SWORD could have had satellites with eyes on, because: Sentient Weapon Observation...But why release that footage, even to the FBI?
Well that is pretty much how magic is supposed to work. The Ancient One after all directly pulled energy from the Dark Dimension to attain effective immorality.
Though yes, this appears to be a whole other level if she pulled a person from Earth-10005's temporal probability curve....and it just now while writing that occurred to me that the reason it's *that* Pietro and not a version of her actual brother is because this sitcom is in the 80's, which is synchronous with his universe's timeline.
ETA: just got a mental image of what would have happened if Wade got pulled in along with him. She'd have to bleep him out ever 5 seconds, but I think it would oddly fit the vibe of the show and his character.
Yeah, that was pretty much my read too. Either Carol *never* came back in the intervening decades until Fury called her in, or she just never visited Monica and/or her mother when she was back (ie: events of 'Endgame'.)
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Also, the show seems to have abandoned the pretense of actually being authentic sitcoms.
The entire episode was framed for modern tv, not the 4:3 80‘s format.
And I am not even sure I heard much of a laugh track anymore, if at all.
The entire episode was framed for modern tv, not the 4:3 80‘s format.
And I am not even sure I heard much of a laugh track anymore, if at all.
The reason it failed on screen is because it just isn't that fresh or interesting a story anymore. It was back in the 70s, but not nowadays.
The laughing was still there, but subdued. It was more whenever Wanda or whatever is controlling the place was trying to distract the people in it.
Like the Truman show, whenever he questioned things the Producer would send in his friend with the beer.
I think you‘re right.
Like the rolling credits when Wanda declared the argument over, but Vision wouldn’t have it and they went over-time instead.
Like the rolling credits when Wanda declared the argument over, but Vision wouldn’t have it and they went over-time instead.
Called it.
Not exactly. The "real world" shots were in the usual 16:9 letterbox framing, but while the "sitcom" scenes indeed were not in the usual 4:3 pillarbox framing, they were in what I'm pretty sure was 14:9 full screen. Which is an interesting choice given that it's something that didn't become in use until the late 90's/early 2000's (typically for old rebroadcast 4:3 material) when widescreen TV's were becoming common...which is about the time Wanda and Pietro's apartment was bombed...
So no, I don't think they abandoned the aspect ration as a device, it's just telling a different story now. Bloody subtle, but it's there. Kind of in awe at the attention to detail here.
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The reveal of this Pietro's origins is going to make or break this series for me. Because at this point with Evan Peters as this Pietro if it turns out he's actually just a townie who was recast as Pietro I am going to go EXTREMELY NEGATIVE on my views of this series.
I don't want it to be a wink-wink/nudge-nudge chuckle-fest like "Aren't we clever? We just re-used an actor who played Quicksilver from the Fox X-men films to be a mind-controlled fake-Pietro in Wandavision."
I know when the rumors of Evan Peters being in Wandavision came out there was speculation of him possibly not playing Quicksilver/Pietro, but being a new character like Mephisto... but introducing him this way as Pietro, I can't accept ANYTHING now than it being Wanda pulled him through the multiverse.
I don't want it to be a wink-wink/nudge-nudge chuckle-fest like "Aren't we clever? We just re-used an actor who played Quicksilver from the Fox X-men films to be a mind-controlled fake-Pietro in Wandavision."
I know when the rumors of Evan Peters being in Wandavision came out there was speculation of him possibly not playing Quicksilver/Pietro, but being a new character like Mephisto... but introducing him this way as Pietro, I can't accept ANYTHING now than it being Wanda pulled him through the multiverse.
Multiverse is coming, X-Men are coming, Mutants are coming. That was known for a while now. I think this NOT being Pietro/Quicksilver from X-Men universe is not very likely. I think, for once, we're supposed to take it a face value.
I cannot express how happy I am about Commodore 64s showing up! 
What? That wasn't the biggest reveal of the episode?
Oh, right. Evan Peters!
I'm not completely surprised considering there were rumors a couple of weeks ago that he might show up, but it's still very cool nonetheless. But who is he here? Is he just some stranger in Westview that Wanda or (probably more likely) Agnes cast into the role of Pietro? Or is he the actual Pietro from the XMU? Or is the situation something else entirely?
While I'm sure everyone will be talking about Evan Peters (re)introduction for days to come, there have been a few other big revelations of the episode. Wanda does have some control of the situation, where she able to rearrange atoms to change a Kevlar vest into a 70s outfit, thus showing her powers in telekinesis have expanded as much as her telepathy. But more importantly, she stepped outside of the bubble to confront SWORD far sooner in the series than I expected. She was remarkably restraint in that confrontation...this time, but it's going to get ugly next time.
The other big revelation is Vision is how he's questioning this reality and is increasingly distrusting Wanda, even in a moment where it's clearly not her doing. I expect he'll try to breach the bubble in the episode and we'll see just how well his animated corpse can continue to exist outside of it. Probably not at all, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a twist.
It's probably not important but I wonder how Wanda was able to step out of the bubble without disrupting the storyline of Billy and Tommy searching for Sparky. Did she freeze everyone so she could step out? Or did she leave a copy of herself with the boys that went on autopilot while she confronted SWORD and then resumed the storyline when she returned? Or am I just overthinking this?
Lastly, it was a small moment, but I absolutely loved how the show acknowledged that both Wanda and Carol came so close to single-handedly defeating Thanos. That said, I'm curious how Jimmy, Darcy, and Monica know that. Is there some large recording of the battle or was the massive event reported in detail to the public after the fact. Or am I overthinking again?
Also, I wonder if the space engineer that Monica knows is someone we know or if they'll be a new character?
What? That wasn't the biggest reveal of the episode?
Oh, right. Evan Peters!
I'm not completely surprised considering there were rumors a couple of weeks ago that he might show up, but it's still very cool nonetheless. But who is he here? Is he just some stranger in Westview that Wanda or (probably more likely) Agnes cast into the role of Pietro? Or is he the actual Pietro from the XMU? Or is the situation something else entirely?
While I'm sure everyone will be talking about Evan Peters (re)introduction for days to come, there have been a few other big revelations of the episode. Wanda does have some control of the situation, where she able to rearrange atoms to change a Kevlar vest into a 70s outfit, thus showing her powers in telekinesis have expanded as much as her telepathy. But more importantly, she stepped outside of the bubble to confront SWORD far sooner in the series than I expected. She was remarkably restraint in that confrontation...this time, but it's going to get ugly next time.
The other big revelation is Vision is how he's questioning this reality and is increasingly distrusting Wanda, even in a moment where it's clearly not her doing. I expect he'll try to breach the bubble in the episode and we'll see just how well his animated corpse can continue to exist outside of it. Probably not at all, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a twist.
It's probably not important but I wonder how Wanda was able to step out of the bubble without disrupting the storyline of Billy and Tommy searching for Sparky. Did she freeze everyone so she could step out? Or did she leave a copy of herself with the boys that went on autopilot while she confronted SWORD and then resumed the storyline when she returned? Or am I just overthinking this?
Lastly, it was a small moment, but I absolutely loved how the show acknowledged that both Wanda and Carol came so close to single-handedly defeating Thanos. That said, I'm curious how Jimmy, Darcy, and Monica know that. Is there some large recording of the battle or was the massive event reported in detail to the public after the fact. Or am I overthinking again?
Also, I wonder if the space engineer that Monica knows is someone we know or if they'll be a new character?
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