Spoilers WandaVision discussion thread

[Reverend]

I see you are in Arizona. Let leave this to those from Europe to comment. For a very long time, I believe, that when many of our American shows aired, these episodes didn't air at all or much later in Europe, especially in the 90s and early 00's.

At least here in the UK, it's kind of all over the place as to what US shows we did and didn't get, at least as far as sitcoms go since...well we already have a lot of our own sitcoms. For one thing I doubt any of the US versions of UK shows got any serious airtime back then for obvious reasons (though I'm pretty sure 'Sanford & Son' was the only one to get any traction in the US anyway.)

I'm not old enough to have been around in the black and white days, but I do believe we got the likes of 'Bewitched' in the 60's and 70's. But for what it's worth, growing up in the late 80's/early 90's, most of my memories of US sitcoms revolve around 'Rosanne', 'Married with Children', and repeats of 'Mork & Mindy' & 'Happy Days'.

As for what we didn't get: I remember piecing together what 'Gilligan's Island' was though reference to it in shows and movies I did see ('Scrooged', 'Baywatch' and probably 'The Simpsons' leap to mind).

 

[JD]

You guys didn't get Gilligan's Island? I would have expected that one to have traveled pretty far.
According to a recent interview with Paul Bettany, Joss Whedon originally wanted Vision to be a bit more...um..... anatomically correct, when he was first built, but he eventually changed his mind.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I like this show and don't mind the slower reveals. It is very rare that I have something to look forward to watching each week. I grew up with all these shows they are paying homage to (even the black and white ones) and WV is doing a nice sardonic twist on so many tropes.
Don't know where all of this is heading but it is fun to anticipate

Right? I'm loving the anticipation and just have to roll my eyes at the people who complain about having to wait two whole weeks for some answers.

 

[Finn]

At least here in the UK, it's kind of all over the place as to what US shows we did and didn't get, at least as far as sitcoms go since...well we already have a lot of our own sitcoms. For one thing I doubt any of the US versions of UK shows (though I'm pretty sure 'Sanford & Son' was the only one to get any traction in the US anyway) got any serious airtime back then for obvious reasons.

I'm not old enough to have been around in the black and white days, but I do believe we got the likes of 'Bewitched' in the 60's and 70's. But for what it's worth, growing up in the late 80's/early 90's, most of my memories of US sitcoms revolve around 'Rosanne', 'Married with Children', and repeats of 'Mork & Mindy' & 'Happy Days'.

As for what we didn't get: I remember piecing together what 'Gilligan's Island' was though reference to it in shows and movies I did see ('Scrooged', 'Baywatch' and probably 'The Simpsons' leap to mind).

Thanks, though I did get the impression Wanda was from one of the eastern bloc countries

 

[Reverend]

Thanks, though I did get the impression Wanda was from one of the eastern bloc countries

Yeah. A fictional one...

 

[Finn]

Yes, a fictional one. I"m very aware

 

[Non Sync]

At least here in the UK, it's kind of all over the place as to what US shows we did and didn't get, at least as far as sitcoms go since...well we already have a lot of our own sitcoms. For one thing I doubt any of the US versions of UK shows got any serious airtime back then for obvious reasons (though I'm pretty sure 'Sanford & Son' was the only one to get any traction in the US anyway.)

Actually, quite a few did. Here's a partial list of older shows that had some traction...
All in the Family (Till Death Us Do Part)
Too Close for Comfort (Keep it in the Family)
Three's Company (Man About the House)
Cosby (One Foot in the Grave)
That Was The Week That Was
The Ropers (George and Mildred)

 

[Guy Gardener]

Actually, quite a few did. Here's a partial list of older shows that had some traction...
All in the Family (Till Death Us Do Part)
Too Close for Comfort (Keep it in the Family)
Three's Company (Man About the House)
Cosby (One Foot in the Grave)
That Was The Week That Was
The Ropers (George and Mildred)

How could you forget The Office?

Although, this is happening Right now!

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There was another one called Free agents, and Giles from Buffy, played the same roll in the American and British versions. Kryten on Red Dwarf, and Moss on The IT Crowd also did double duty. But those two didn't make it past the pilot.

 

[Reverend]

^We're talking specifically about pre-90's family sitcoms. None of that applies.

Actually, quite a few did. Here's a partial list of older shows that had some traction...
All in the Family (Till Death Us Do Part)
Too Close for Comfort (Keep it in the Family)
Three's Company (Man About the House)
Cosby (One Foot in the Grave)
That Was The Week That Was
The Ropers (George and Mildred)

Well, I've certainly never seen any of those (and Three's Company is the only one I've heard of through other shows referencing it...well, one show at least) so that seems to bear out the notion they probably never made it back across the pond...or if they did, never made much of a splash.
That said, of the UK versions, I've only actually watched One Foot in the Grave, and only heard of one or two of the others. Some of these things just don't have a life past their airdates, even if they're popular at the time.

 

[JD]

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I watched the clip a little while ago, and there's a lot to unpack there.
So main scene shows us that Monica was apparently sucked into Westview later than the others, which could explain why she seemed to break the illusion easier.
And from the montage it looks like this one will be all or mostly in the real world.
We actually see Jimmy Woo sending Wanda the radio message, and we're finally getting our first appearance by Darcy.

 

[StCoop]

You guys didn't get Gilligan's Island? I would have expected that one to have traveled pretty far.

Nope. But the weird thing is most people would know what it is just from spoofs of it in other shows/movies. Same thing with Mister Rogers.

 

[StCoop]

I watched the clip a little while ago, and there's a lot to unpack there.

Did you notice that everybody in Westview has a copy of their driver's license attached to their file except for Agatha, sorry, "Agnes". And Dottie doesn't have a file at all.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

The stained glass is very Mork and Mindy.

Ahh, I knew that was familiar but couldn't pull it from my vestigial memory.

 

[JD]

Did you notice that everybody in Westview has a copy of their driver's license attached to their file except for Agatha, sorry, "Agnes". And Dottie doesn't have a file at all.

I missed that, but they did mention it in Io9's article about the clip.

 

[Reverend]

Same thing with Mister Rogers.

I literally only found out who Mr. Rogers was a few months back while watching the documentary & Tom Hanks movie back to back in lockdown. Up until now I'd only been going on Wesley Snipe's description of "A Not Evil Sir Humphrey."

 

[JD]

Wow, he's such a huge part of American culture that I assumed he'd made it all over the world, and everyone knew who he was.

 

[Saul]

The problem is you guys are treating the sitcom plots as a chore you have to get through to see the big mystery. The sitcom plots are the show. You're supposed to be enjoying the awkward dinner with the Harts, the drunken magic show, and Wanda's antics to hide her pregnancy. You shouldn't be enduring them; you should be enjoying them.

But who here is really watching for the sitcom plots? There are real sitcoms out there that would wipe the floor with the comedy of Wandavision if I took it at face value. Real sitcoms aren't a chore. Ones that wrap themselves in the facade of one can be.

 

[Anwar]

Right? I'm loving the anticipation and just have to roll my eyes at the people who complain about having to wait two whole weeks for some answers.

Netflix and their "Drop the whole season at once" thing spoiled a lot of folks and made them forget patience is a virtue.

 

[theenglish]

I literally only found out who Mr. Rogers was a few months back while watching the documentary & Tom Hanks movie back to back in lockdown. Up until now I'd only been going on Wesley Snipe's description of "A Not Evil Sir Humphrey."

I'm Canadian and we didn't have cable television growing up so we only had three Canadian channels. Although I knew who Mister Rogers was (the American Mr. Dress-Up was how my parents described him) until this day I've never seen an episode of Mister Rogers.

 

[Gordie]

Well still haven\t made it through the first episode. Not giving up on it though. lol