Only if Chak and Harry take a pay cut.
Voyager Reboot movies?
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Only if Chak and Harry take a pay cut.
We can just blend them together into one, a much more pleasant character. Saves a ton of money too. You can tuvix them for all I care, we'll explain it with a postnote in the captain's log. That way purists don't get upset because, 'splaining.
David Hewlett should play the Chakkim. He will of course be the subject of much shipping with the Captain. And it will be very wonderful.
David Hewlett should play the Chakkim. He will of course be the subject of much shipping with the Captain. And it will be very wonderful.
To me, a reboot should be a chance to show a very different timeline with a lot of changes and new possibilities. If it's the JJverse, it's hard to believe that all the same characters will all be born, be the same ages, join Starfleet at the same time, and all be posted to that very same ship, and then sent on the same mission as their "Prime" universe counterparts.
The Mirror Universe had the same characters as DS9 despite the differences in their histories. It's common place to do that in alternate timelines because it makes a better story. If a Voyager reboot gets made or not won't have anything to do with the logic of the same characters being in the two different universe in similar roles. The same crew was on the Enterprise of the JJ reboot despite their different histories.
Yep, Trek operates under comic book universe rules - and so counterparts of main characters will always be around and interacting no matter how different the circumstances.
It's not that it makes for a better story. Good stories can happen under any circumstances. All of these actors are already signed to do the show, so it will be they who we see, no matter how implausible that they would still all be together. But it also gives the writers and actors a chance for a different take and spin of the character. That at least can be very entertaining. It's on par with the "body switching" episodes that so many fantasy and scifi genre shows have.
But a reboot in the alt timeline where the break happened 131 years earlier (2233 to 2364), is an opportunity to do things very differently. Yes some of the same characters will be there, and still others might be encountered along the run of the series, but every chance for a change should be taken to give a very different spin to the 24th century. Gender switches for characters, along with career and other circumstantial changes.
Maybe Soong and thus his androids are female. Perhaps Lore is who is rescued and Data who is left to be found later. Maybe the Picards had daughters, and Worf was never raised by humans, and is now a powerful and adversarial Klingon commander.
Maybe the Klingons, Romulans and Federation all benefitted from work based on Narada technology and have ships and borders very different than those they had. Pivotal people were never born and historical events happened very differently. Maybe Gorkon was killed in battle with the Narada and never became Chancellor, etc.
Point being, is to use it as an opportunity to give a very different turn to events, and not simply a recast TNG with everyone sitting in the same chairs and doing the same jobs and facing more or less the same landscape. That would be more of a faithful remake, rather than a reboot.
The point was made earlier about the 'iconic' factor and I suspect that's very true. Kirk, Spock & co are ingrained in pop culture & have been for many years, people know who they are even if they've never seen Star Trek in their life. You can't really say the same about any other of the crews - with the possible exception of Picard & maybe Data (but even then I don't reckon everyone would know the characters names). That's why the new movies can pull in punters both who are Trek fans & aren't, which is the name of the game obviously.
In other words, rebooting the other properties, certainly for cinema, is an entirely different & much more unlikely prospect. Many wouldn't really see DS9 or VOY as a reboot, it would be the first time they've heard of or become aware of them, which negates the whole point really. You couldn't do them on TV either as with 300 odd episodes already behind them, what would the point be? The TOS reboot on film works because we never saw the five year mission anywhere else but on TV, so it feels like potentially new ground going forward (certainly because I doubt Pine, Quinto et al will be playing these characters into middle age).
What's more likely to happen is that the TOS reboot films eventually give way to a brand new series, set in the new continuity, with a whole new crew (I would suspect in the early 24th century, which Prime never really explored), who would then graduate to the movies if the show was a success.
In other words, rebooting the other properties, certainly for cinema, is an entirely different & much more unlikely prospect. Many wouldn't really see DS9 or VOY as a reboot, it would be the first time they've heard of or become aware of them, which negates the whole point really. You couldn't do them on TV either as with 300 odd episodes already behind them, what would the point be? The TOS reboot on film works because we never saw the five year mission anywhere else but on TV, so it feels like potentially new ground going forward (certainly because I doubt Pine, Quinto et al will be playing these characters into middle age).
What's more likely to happen is that the TOS reboot films eventually give way to a brand new series, set in the new continuity, with a whole new crew (I would suspect in the early 24th century, which Prime never really explored), who would then graduate to the movies if the show was a success.
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"Pulling in punters who are Trek fans or aren't" can be a risky operation.
It's like certain rock bands who abandon their original style and adapt to something trendy in order to gain more fans. Mostly the outcome is that they lose their old, loyal fans who see them as sell-outs and don't gain any new fans for long either since those new trendy fans see them as something temprarily interesting and then move on to some other trendy stuff.
"Pulling in punters who are Trek fans or aren't" can be a risky operation.
It's like certain rock bands who abandon their original style and adapt to something trendy in order to gain more fans. Mostly the outcome is that they lose their old, loyal fans who see them as sell-outs and don't gain any new fans for long either since those new trendy fans see them as something temprarily interesting and then move on to some other trendy stuff.
Everyone should keep doing the same thing forever. Like me posting to this BBS.
Oh sure but the bean counters don't care about loyalty, they want the cash. Star Trek is a business like anything else so chasing the dollar will eternally be a priority over creative satisfaction, or staying true to the past.
Personally I like the new direction so right now I feel they're having their cake & eating it, but we now live in an age where nothing is sacred I'm afraid.
The entire 7-season VOY set was a top seller at Amazon in the Star Trek category, the times I looked; fans bought the hell out of VOY. I bought the new TOS sets, and I would buy the VOY sets if they remastered them. They are beautiful already, but there is really no comparison to remastered.
Don't you think its time for nuTrek to meet the mirror universe?
If so, maybe the rebooted Voyager could show us the MU versions of our people.
I nominate Katee Sackhoff as MU Janeway.
If so, maybe the rebooted Voyager could show us the MU versions of our people.
I nominate Katee Sackhoff as MU Janeway.
But will the cash last?
They might lose the loyal fans, I mean people like most of the people on this forum and the new ones they gain might abandon Trek as soon as some new trendy thing show up.
As for the current times, they have really hit a low point when it comes to poular culture. The music sucks, the movies sucks and most of the TV shows sucks.
Well that last point is personal taste, not objective fact - many indeed would argue we're going through another TV Golden Age akin to the mid 90's, infact (with shows such as Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones etc…). Plus the movie industry has never been more profitable, with many billion-dollar films being critically respected (such as The Avengers, The Dark Knight etc…).
As to the cash point, well… possibly. That won't matter to them, though. Hardcore Trek fans too, for all their bluster, will never walk away from the franchise & still watch the stuff they claim to hate, filling those pockets.
As to the cash point, well… possibly. That won't matter to them, though. Hardcore Trek fans too, for all their bluster, will never walk away from the franchise & still watch the stuff they claim to hate, filling those pockets.
"Change is the essential process of all existence." Spock, TOS
If there's one show that needs the nu Trek reboot it's VOY. TNG and DS9 handed the showrunners a goldmine of dramatic possibilities setting up the Federation/Maquis rivalry. But what did we get? Block o' wood Chakotay and his merry band ready to fo,low Janeway. I don't care about who is in front or behind the camera. Just deliver on the promise of a Starfleet/Maquis schism and a ship desperate for resources and repair.
I can just imagine... all the crew being at the Academy at the same time regardless of their ages, lots of pointless explosions, one-liners, soap opera angst in the middle of serious missions (crewmen telling the Captain to shut up while they continue bickering), gratuitous underwear scenes, and Janeway reduced to a puppy-toting "Legally Blonde" type of character.
No, thanks.
OMG puppy toting..
Wait. Was Archer a puppy toter?
I'm picturing her with a puppy under her arm as she loads her phaser rifle..
Wait. Was Archer a puppy toter?
I'm picturing her with a puppy under her arm as she loads her phaser rifle..
Her backpack, uniform, and phaser rifle would be pink with silvery-white trim, and she'd be wearing dainty little boots. The puppy would have an identical uniform, and be peeking out of the backpack.
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