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VOY: Unworthy by Kirsten Beyer Review Thread (Spoilers!)

Grade "Unworthy"


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Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

Okay, I voted Average.


Basically I felt that everything was left in the air at the end of FC but I forgave that because I knew Unworthy was due up in 6 months. I get the same feeling from Unworthy but there's nothing for Voyager in 2010 and nothing confirmed in 2011. It makes me sad that I might not get to find out what happens with the rest of the fleet and Harry and Meegan, the Caeliar etc until after I graduate in May 2011...

And my inner-writer kept finding sentences that seemed either repetitive or awkward. It was annoying to say the least; I do not read Trek Lit to be reminded of the things I need to work on as a writer. I wonder if it was hard to write this one because of all the Editors "moving around" at Pocket.

Last on my nitpick list is another thing about the ending. I kept getting the sense nearly 70 pages in that things were getting wrapped up to quickly plot wise. Maybe it had to do with the number of story lines running through the novel that had to be (somewhat) resolved.


That being said, Any Voyager book is better than No Voyager book and I do like where this is going. I'm glad so many of the old crew found their way back to Voyager and can't wait for more. In the meantime I'll just have to reread FC and Unworthy
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Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

Lots of spoilers in this review....




Boy, Starfleet doesn’t come off looking too great in this one, huh? A new assignment and instantly everyone is obsessed with who’s crushing on who, prompting even Torres to admit – in a moment funny for perhaps the wrong reasons – that Voyager is feeling like a Klingon romance novel. Not to mention, our Admiral turns out to have been a species 8472 for this whole time, Zimmerman sees nothing wrong with putting a holographic crew member on a mission where no one knows she’s a hologram (does this seem problematic to anyone else?), and Eden sees nothing wrong with committing fraud to protect an officer of admittedly high value but certainly without any official reason to necessitate such treatment.

Really, Eden in general is just not too impressive in this book to me, as it seems like she doesn’t really do… anything. Torres shows up? That’s cool, she can stay. Seven shows up? That’s cool, she can stay. Chakotay might be a traitor? We’ll wait on that, no need to act soon. Her husband is a traitor? Huge epic confrontation in the shuttle bay… at which point she lets him go. Torres and Chakotay hanging around with nothing to do? Promote them. It really seemed like Eden mostly existed to cause the obvious and necessary plot points to move in the correct direction at the author’s convenience, rather than due to internal motivations of any particular variety.

Now, that all said, if she’d been more strongly characterized before this book I might not have those complaints, as certainly if a more established Captain like Picard or Janeway had made all these choices I wouldn’t have found them unbelievable. But after Janeway’s passing, I was looking for a strong and powerful character to be in charge that I could really root for, and Eden just hasn’t emerged as that person for me yet.

That said, in Full Circle, Beyer similarly struggled with getting the plot layed down in expressly logical terms, and with so much going on here it’s not a surprise that she took a few shortcuts to get it all moving in the right directions. Her strength doesn’t run in that direction, but rather towards character arcs and interplay of personalities; the Joss-Whedon-like creation of family (found family, rather than biological family, is a distinction he’s fond of making and one that makes sense here as well). And in that category, the book positively excels.

With the notable exception of Eden, every main character both original and from the show (including, surprisingly, Neelix!) is given an absolutely perfect and absolutely fascinating story in this, and I believed every bit of all of them. Special notice goes to Cambridge and Seven, as I found those scenes just about the most thrilling pure-character scenes Trek has offered lately, and well really just to Cambridge in general because he’s awesome. I think I need a short story about him being Chaotica now.

I also loved Torres’s characterization and interaction with Conlon, and found her promotion to be a great idea. Kim being all freaked out and spazzing works for me too, and as a previous commenter mentioned, I wondered if it wasn’t perhaps motivated by a general sense of abandonment and not just Paris’s lack of trust.

Additionally, the idea of the Indign (though I have no idea how to pronounce the name - some help, Kirsten?) was a fascinating one, and though I’m a bit bummed that we don’t get to see more about the Caeliar, it was certainly a story worthy of the first new status quo novel. I like the cliffhanger too. And Batiste being an 8472 was also pretty cool – it added a resonance to the Eden/Batiste romance, of them both searching for a lost home, that made a weird sense to me, and built organically off of earlier Voyager plotlines. And while it was awfully convenient that we happened to clear the center seat for Chakotay again, I’ll allow it; going from Golden’s stuff to this new status quo had to be a hard damn thing to work out, logistically, and I think it was handled well overall.

In the end, I can’t help but view this as a trilogy – the first half of Full Circle being the old status quo, the second half being the painful transition, and Unworthy being the new status quo – and seen in that light each of the three elements is different and uniquely compelling, though none is without flaw. Full Circle felt undeniably more epic than Unworthy, but it might have just been a result of putting the first two books in one; Unworthy definitely keeps up the high standards, placing Voyager on equal footing with all of the other Palmieri-launched series. Though I wouldn’t call Unworthy in particular a standout entry by the standards of any of them, it was satisfying and full of interesting stories and ideas. Eight out of ten, and I’m eagerly awaiting sequels (and I hope Beyer comes back to do a few of them, someday!)

Though neither Full Circle nor Unworthy are without their share of flaws, Voyager has finally made it to the same high standards as the rest of the Trek-lit universe, and it's about time.
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

But after Janeway’s passing, I was looking for a strong and powerful character to be in charge that I could really root for, and Eden just hasn’t emerged as that person for me yet.

Perhaps that strong and powerful character will turn out to be Chakotay. He always stood in Janeway's shadow and was content to do so, but I don't think his character arc is meant to put him in Eden's as well. Note that even though Eden is now the fleet commander she's still a Captain. She and Chakotay share the same rank. That puts him in a stronger position than he ever had with Janeway.
 
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Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

^ I have enjoyed Chakotay's development, but Eden is in charge of the fleet, and I don't really understand her as a leader yet. It's not a dealbreaker, but it's not awesome either.
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

Finished this earlier today and have to say i liked it. I found the Indigin interesing and the several plot twists intriguing, though have to admit to seeing most of them coming. Not that I find that a problem as this is star trek and not a murder mystery novel. I found the characterisation for the regular characters spot on and enjoyed neelix's brief cameo, which considering i couldn't stand him when the series was on air is a major achievement. As for the new characters like many i'm still not sure where i stand on Eden, she seems likeable enough but i just cant seem to bring myself to care about her too much. I'm glad Batiste is gone as i never liked him, though i now get the impression i wasn't supposed to, and Cambridge in general i like and find a valuable addition to the crew. The one problem that i have with the character is his obvious resemblace to Hugh Laurie' s House. I'm sure this was discussed in depth when Full Circle came out but i found it much more of an issue in Unworthy and several times found it jarring me out of the flow of the story, mainly due to the fact that character seems to slip in my head from one Hugh Laurie character to another, namely George from the Blackadder series. Not that i can think of a good reason for this now that i stop and think about it but i gues thats just the way my mind works.

So overall a good book and an enjoyable read, 8 out of 10
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

Finally i got my book. I can start to read it this weekend and read some of the previous posts.
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

The character of Capt.Eden didn't leap off the page for me either.Can't help thinking of her as a Janeway re-tread(I hope I'm wrong).
But,given the speed of the return to the status quo,I'm not as enthusiastic as I was.:(
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

Um I was at a Waldenbooks yesterday. There is one in the Morgantown Mall in West Virginia.
I know that store. I bought Star Trek: New Voyages there back in '89.

Feck. Now I feel old...
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

I let out a sigh of relief at the end of this book. Finally Voyager books are good again. I was not a fan of the Christie Golden books and only picked up Full Circle because she wasn't the author. I loved how Beyer reunited the crew that was haphazardly scattered about and placed them back where their story belonged, in the Delta Quadrant.

Hopefully, Seven will get control of her catoms and be able to work some mojo in the future.

Harry had a right to be as pissed as he was, I would've been too.

Still not too interested in Eden but Cambridge is a bright spot.

Thanks Kristen Beyer, for bringing Voyager back.
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

Last on my nitpick list is another thing about the ending. I kept getting the sense nearly 70 pages in that things were getting wrapped up to quickly plot wise. Maybe it had to do with the number of story lines running through the novel that had to be (somewhat) resolved.
I felt the same way. It kind of felt like there was a rush to tie up all the loose ends and make sure all of the characters were set in their designated roles.

But overall, I enjoyed Unworthy. For the most part, I liked how the charaters (both old and new) were portrayed and the plot was intriguing. The Indign's reverence (or hero worship or whatever) of the Borg was an interesting concept.

I did find it a bit odd that Starfleet didn't bother to contact Neelix when they arrived in the DQ. He was supposedly their Delta Quadrant ambassador, yet outisde of Torres contacting him when she was in a bind, it seems that no one even bothered to send him a message.
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

I assumed that was going to be Voyager's first stop on their way back. Check in, lend a hand, get the lay of the land. And they CERTAINLY should have been in contact before they came back to the DQ...

Then again, geography-wise, Neelix should be a little FURTHER into the DQ than the fleet stopped, as Neelix got off the ship before they got to the transwarp hub, which is roughly where the fleet it. Torres just went a little deeper into the DQ before she came back towards the fleet, so Neelix would probably be their next stop...
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

I assumed that was going to be Voyager's first stop on their way back. Check in, lend a hand, get the lay of the land. And they CERTAINLY should have been in contact before they came back to the DQ...

See, I got the impression that beyond Janeway, no one in the upper Starfleet ranks cared that much about Neelix either way and probably just forgot about him (which I think is backed up by the fact that no one had informed him of her death), hence the fact how it was mainly just Janeway personally making the effort to send him updates on how things were and such since they returned to the Alpha quadrant, and when she died, they stopped and no other official took the time or effort to continue them to him.

So them not planning a stopping point for the fleet to talk with him didnt seem that surprising.
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

Though I had better expectations, I enjoyed the book.

The imposter Starfleet officer is getting a little old. It seems like every other senior officer is an imposter. One would think Starfleet with have security policies in place to prevent this.

I expected Neelix to play a bigger role, but hopefully he'll be in the next one.
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

I assumed that was going to be Voyager's first stop on their way back. Check in, lend a hand, get the lay of the land. And they CERTAINLY should have been in contact before they came back to the DQ...

See, I got the impression that beyond Janeway, no one in the upper Starfleet ranks cared that much about Neelix either way and probably just forgot about him (which I think is backed up by the fact that no one had informed him of her death), hence the fact how it was mainly just Janeway personally making the effort to send him updates on how things were and such since they returned to the Alpha quadrant, and when she died, they stopped and no other official took the time or effort to continue them to him.

So them not planning a stopping point for the fleet to talk with him didnt seem that surprising.

Could just be that without the slipstream, they didn't see the point, and then the borg thing took up some of their attention. not sure why they wouldn't give him a call before they went to the DQ, though, just to get a quick status report on the area...
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

I guess I would say the most I feel about this book was disappointment. I mean, it turned out all right, but it definitely dropped the momentum I felt after reading the excellent Full Circle. And Lasren STILL doesn't have a first name!

I have to agree with Thrawn that Starfleet looks terrible in this. They have a Groundskeeper infiltrator in an extremely high position for years, all the way back to during the Dominion War. How did he pass the blood screenings? Then there's also Eden, who you have to wonder, if she's not human, how she is able to hide that fact from a Starfleet physical? Barclay and Zimmerman put a hologram (giving her a phony commission, apparently) into the ship without anyone noticing she had no history, no record, anything? Unless they faked a record, which means they should probably be brought up on charges.

I will say that Harry's reactions were very true. If someone I cared for faked their death and kept me out of the loop for no reason at all, I would be furious. For a LONG time. Harry keeps getting slapped by his so-called friends. Chakotay's behavior in the year since Janeway's death would have contributed to this. Frankly, I think Harry should not be on the mission at all. Maybe he would be happier if he left this family behind.

I found Cambridge to be tedious in this one. I warmed to Cambridge by the end of Full Circle, but by the end of this he was full-blown annoying again. The "oh, I love Seven" garbage was irritating to say the least. Wow, someone is attracted to Seven? That's crazy! Oh, wait, that's everybody. Chakotay, the Doctor, Kim, enough already! And even if Seven were completely cured of her identity issues, why would Seven not be made to go to a counselor? I am a little tired of everybody in Starfleet having a 20th century view of mental health care.

I really like Conlon here (I can't recall her getting a lot of development in SCE stories), and her interest in Kim is the one new romantic development I didn't find lame. Torres and Paris were perfect, and I am very happy that Torres has a job again. (No offense to stay at home moms out there, but I was very tired of Torres not having a real job.) Chakotay is good too, but I am not certain how I feel about his being back in command of Voyager. Neelix's appearance was pleasant enough, though I feel that maybe he should have met up with the rest of his old friends. (I bet he could cheer up Harry.) Patel and Lasren remain ciphers, and Sharak is still mostly unexplored. I found Meegan to be intensely annoying, and the Doctor's "relationship" with her irksome in the extreme. Does he just kiss everybody who has an interest in him. Also, why is the Doctor's "heterosexuality" such a foregone conclusion? He isn't really even a man at all. Otherwise, the Doctor was spot-on, and remains one of my favorite characters.

I really wish Seven would call herself Annika. I know it's all about how that name is not really who she is, but "Seven" glorifies something awful. They murdered Kathryn Janeway, for god's sake!
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

The imposter Starfleet officer is getting a little old. It seems like every other senior officer is an imposter. One would think Starfleet with have security policies in place to prevent this.

Just how did Batiste pull this off anyway? Was there a human Admiral Batiste that the 8472 imposter took the place of? If so, what happened to the real one? If not, did he just show up one day at Starfleet with fake credentials?
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

Eden is human, but her father's heritage or something is in the DQ. I agree though that this is getting tiresome, like an Odo retread.
 
Re: Unworthy - Discuss/Grade Thread <SPOILERS>

^ I think that depends entirely on what her backstory turns out to be, actually. There are only but so many story setups, but where the story goes matters enormously. (Look at all the similarities between Vaughn and Sisko, for instance, but it would be hard to call Vaughn a Sisko retread.)
 
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