There have only been 11 votes in the rating poll since May 9th. Are there any viewing stats online anywhere? Has it really been that dismal?
Spoilers VOY DOC: To The Journey | Rating and Review
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Does multiple free screenings at conventions over the last 9 months count?
I don't know. What percentage of convention attendees frequent this BBS?
I wish I could have found some over the years. Something like Star Trek Las Vegas I have gone to, but decided to skip it this year. I know they also showed this on the Cruise, but then it seemed like the cruise was sponsoring this documentary so maybe it was a "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" kind of thing.
I never bothered to vote in the poll even though I've seen it. Perhaps there are others like me.
No remastered clips? Seriously, that was half the fun of the DS9 doc!
I was at STLV this year. Brannon Braga and Ronald D. Moore were on the same panels and seemed like they were good friends. Despite it not working out on Voyager, they appear to still respect each other a great deal.I rated it a 7/10 and feel that's pretty fair. It was a long road getting from there to here but we finally made it.
It wasn't hard hitting but I guess I really didn't expect that. This was a sentimental look back. For any more hardcore Trekkie there really wasn't much new learned here. I did enjoy hearing from a lot of the BTS folks and their perspective. Probably more than the actors themselves to be honest but I always like to see what goes on behind the scenes because those folks are often neglected when it comes to kudos.
They touched on everything I wanted. The Bujold awkwardness in the beginning. Scott MacDonald's comments on that were new to me. Hearing from some of the TV and production execs besides Berman and Braga was interesting. It was nice to hear from so many women that were inspired by Janeway to go into STEM careers and science related fields because for all of the show's faults that is one thing that can't be overstated. We have to consider that strong female characters were not the norm back in the mid 90s and earlier, especially in command type roles, so there was a lot of pressure on the female cast and Jeri Taylor to make it work. Hearing from Taylor was great in this as well.
They were kind to Jennifer Lien and acknowledged her absence and firing. I feel like we finally got most of the truth. The cast was large and they had to make room for Jeri; it comes down to money. Jen was quiet, insular, and Jeri Taylor even acknowledged calling her into her office offering help. Plus they weren't quite sure what to do with her character. I would have liked to hear from Jennifer herself but of course we know from history she may not be in the right state to even do interviews any more.
They hit on Garret being a bit of a wild child and pain for the production at times. Acknowledging that Neelix was kind of annoying. That Kate was not pleased with Jeri or the Seven character when she was brought on board and treated her unfairly. But they've since hashed that out. How does Tuvix get a mention but not Threshold? Two of VOY's most notorious episodes.
The Brannon Braga and Ron Moore rift was mentioned and Braga pretty much took the blame for that. "Ron took all his good fucking ideas to Battlestar Galactica," got a chuckle.
The ZeroG stuff felt like a waste of valuable screen time. I appreciated that they were trying to break up some of the monotonous interviews but I don't feel like it really gelled with the rest of the documentary. Plus as was mentioned before they did spend a lot of time on the Cruise and I'm not quite sure if that's a good or bad thing.
Bottom line: I'm glad we finally made it to the finsh line with this documentary and I'm pleased enough with what we got. I can't compare it to any of their other work as I've not watched any, not even WWLB, yet. Maybe I should do that now...
To reiterate this question... how can non-bakers see this thing? Anyone know?
I'm starting to feel as though giving it a 7 was overly generous of me. I retain more negative than positive feelings regarding the whole thing. Perhaps if I'd gone to see it live I'd feel differently? As it is, I really hope that the disc includes some decent special features, but I won't hold my breath.
I don't think it has been officially released yet. They gave it to us backers to shut us up as we were getting pissy.
That's honestly how it felt in the end.I don't think it has been officially released yet. They gave it to us backers to shut us up as we were getting pissy.
I still don't know how they thought people wouldn't get pissed off when they kept showing the damn thing to everyone and their brother at conventions for months.
Bonz's on the job training was well regarded.
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