Vikings - Season 4
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Alas, poor Slutbunny.... 
Ragnar is flat-out nuts at this point, yes? I mean, portaging the boats is an inspired idea (though he could have picked a flat beach to ground them instead of a cliff), but killing your cute concubine over a wisecrack is just a little over the line.
Judith! OMG! :O
Well, go to confession and do some Hail Marys, and all your sins are forgiven, right? Isn't that how it works? Or maybe she has to become a demon hunter to atone. No, this isn't a Whedon show...
Judith! OMG! :O
Well, go to confession and do some Hail Marys, and all your sins are forgiven, right? Isn't that how it works? Or maybe she has to become a demon hunter to atone. No, this isn't a Whedon show...
Yeah, ol' Ragnar has gone full-on junkie and has clipped his only means of acquiring more "medicine". If he can get through the inevitable DT's once the last bit of what he has is gone, he might be able to bounce back stronger.
They definitely seem to be playing fast and loose with the timeline. They all of a sudden went from "making camp" against a rocky cliff to building a complex multi-tier crane system, complete with roads to move the boats back upstream. I wonder when they're going to get tired of doing that and just carry the damn things on their heads.
So, question I've had since last season, is "The Wanderer/Harbard" supposed to be a manifestation of Odin in Midgard? There is reference to a Harbard as a ferryboat driver in a poem entitled "Hárbardsljód", and this person is supposed to be Odin in disguise. I know we've seen another such Odin-like manifestations on various battlefields in earlier seasons, wearing a wide-brim hat covering his face with a crow on his shoulder, but this Harbard looks like a different kind of character, yet Odin is specifically referred to as "the Wanderer" in Norse mythology. He's also supposed to be missing an eye, which Harbard is not. Then again, I suspect a god of any kind could change the physical appearance of his body if he wanted to. There is definitely something about this guy. The interesting thing about the Hárbardsljód poem is that some believe Harbard is not Odin, but actually a manifestation of Loki, which would explain his "mischief-making" amongst the female population of Kattegat, and yet still have god-like pain-relieving powers to slither his way into people's lives as a healer. Very interesting B-story there, but I'm really disliking Queenie Auslaug. She really is a frumpy little spoiled brat.
They definitely seem to be playing fast and loose with the timeline. They all of a sudden went from "making camp" against a rocky cliff to building a complex multi-tier crane system, complete with roads to move the boats back upstream. I wonder when they're going to get tired of doing that and just carry the damn things on their heads.
So, question I've had since last season, is "The Wanderer/Harbard" supposed to be a manifestation of Odin in Midgard? There is reference to a Harbard as a ferryboat driver in a poem entitled "Hárbardsljód", and this person is supposed to be Odin in disguise. I know we've seen another such Odin-like manifestations on various battlefields in earlier seasons, wearing a wide-brim hat covering his face with a crow on his shoulder, but this Harbard looks like a different kind of character, yet Odin is specifically referred to as "the Wanderer" in Norse mythology. He's also supposed to be missing an eye, which Harbard is not. Then again, I suspect a god of any kind could change the physical appearance of his body if he wanted to. There is definitely something about this guy. The interesting thing about the Hárbardsljód poem is that some believe Harbard is not Odin, but actually a manifestation of Loki, which would explain his "mischief-making" amongst the female population of Kattegat, and yet still have god-like pain-relieving powers to slither his way into people's lives as a healer. Very interesting B-story there, but I'm really disliking Queenie Auslaug. She really is a frumpy little spoiled brat.
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I still don't know how or why Ragnar chose to dump Lagaetha for Auslaug. They really should have cast someone other than her if they wanted it to be more believable within the story. Cause even though I'm straight, I'd do all kinds of crazy things to be with Lagaetha. Auslaug? Not so much.
Anyway, from what I remember of the myths/epics, Ragnar is really closer to Uther Pendragon (in that he's just a mythical king who fathered the real hero of the story) while his kids are destined to be the really big deals. We've already begun to see how awesome Bjorn is, and both Sigurd and Ivar's epicness have been hinted at, too.
I'll be surprised if Ragnar survives this season, and even more surprised if Bjorn doesn't really start coming to the forefront in a hardcore way.
Anyway, from what I remember of the myths/epics, Ragnar is really closer to Uther Pendragon (in that he's just a mythical king who fathered the real hero of the story) while his kids are destined to be the really big deals. We've already begun to see how awesome Bjorn is, and both Sigurd and Ivar's epicness have been hinted at, too.
I'll be surprised if Ragnar survives this season, and even more surprised if Bjorn doesn't really start coming to the forefront in a hardcore way.
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Ragnar really, really doesn't want anyone to know about the Viking colony getting wiped out in England. They're now telegraphing that it's going to come back to bite him in the ass.
Dedication to a Viking king:
What, you mean other than his being all creepy and lecherous?
Welcome to a couple of seasons ago.
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Well, considering he turned against his people, flat out murdered the people he was sworn to protect and lead, and is willingly aiding his people's enemies for power and wealth, I wouldn't exactly call him a hero. Especially since the protagonists of the series are clearly the Vikings (even if they're not squeaky pure themselves).
So, yeah, I'm not calling Rollo a hero for purposes of my last post.
Harbard and Auslaug are a story that I have no use for. The writing has made Auslaug pretty unlikable from day one and this just made her seem unlikable and beyond clueless. Harbard is no god, the show has eschewed that pretty well, instead playing things as how folks might have seen people and things as gods, touched by gods, or simply magical. Some things do stretch that quite a bit. Helga looked pretty charbroiled last episode but whatever Floki used I'm sure there's burn trauma units that would love to have that stuff.
Porting the boats, the vikings had been getting across Russia and down to Constantinople for quite some time with the methods shown. That would have been a more believable way for Yidu and that Eastern trader to show up than through Paris. The show has really neglected how far the vikings traveled and traded in a lot of respects.
This show has never had a timeline in years or in small scale. Sure, they could pull off Ragnar's portage stunt but I can't believe the French didn't have scouts to keep an eye on the viking fleet as it went back down river in case they didn't go away. Rollo, certainly, should have thought of it.
Yeah, Helga had 3rd degree burns over half her upper body and right arm last week. This week she just seemed a little bit tired. Great constitution on that lady!
And what is it with the French attacking baggage trains and camp followers? They pulled that shit at Agincourt too. Bad form.
And what is it with the French attacking baggage trains and camp followers? They pulled that shit at Agincourt too. Bad form.
Down to the last episode of this half-season...anyone know when they plan to run the second half?
I know this show is mainly about terrible people and the two brothers and their gang are being set up as future villains but that nonchalant raping/killing of the villagers made me kinda sick (which of course was the intention).
And little Ivar turns out to become a little prick.
And little Ivar turns out to become a little prick.
The show has gone a long way from how brutal the vikings could be on their raids in the last season or two. Ragnar and company were just as brutal in the first season, but the show didn't linger over after effects like that scene, for sure. Also, Ragnar, Rollo, and Lagertha were never really shown overly blood thirsty on the raids or would hold people back from that level of slaughter when they were in the room. I tend to think there was an added reason for this side show of rapine and gore. The hard part to believe about Ragnar's plan was how they would go overland without the French getting wind of it. I guess the show also wanted to show how they managed that with this scene, as well. Parties would scout ahead on the route killing anyone who might warn the French forces.
I get the impression that the assault at the farm will play a role in the future...if only to inform Rollo's actions against his former kinsmen.
I recall he sent word to Rouen so he's bound to get word they never showed up down river. Rollo would have to know something's up with that, knowing his brother as he does. I'm hoping he and Gisla are looking to show up Roland for a fool and take on Ragnar to solidify their position with the Emperor.
As for when Season 4.5 is airing...I'm under the impression that it will be substantially later, maybe the fall. Cable shows have been known to show two halves of what was numbered as the same season a year apart as if they were different seasons.
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