V: "It's Only the Beginning" 11/24/09 - Grading & Discussion
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damn! I was kinda hoping when they were going to skin that V that it was going to be our first glimpse of what they really look like.
Above Average
Good episode, good cliffhanger. I saw the preganancy twist coming a mile away though.
Good episode, good cliffhanger. I saw the preganancy twist coming a mile away though.
Above Average. Not as good as last week but a strong episode nonetheless that sets up future episodes nicely.
I haven't been too thrilled with the show, but I liked the bliss scene and the ending had some pretty good hooks.
I liked the bliss too
Still can't stand Tyler. Here's hoping he gets eaten by the V's.
Still can't stand Tyler. Here's hoping he gets eaten by the V's.
It took 3 episodes but I'm started to become interested in what's going on. This episode did a fairly good job in peeling away some of the layers while introducing some interesting mysteries/threads with the Plan, the Fifth Colum resistance, John Mays.
I still don't care for Tyler or Lisa but Anna's plan for him might help make his storyline much more interesting than lovestruck teenage melodrama. I still have been enjoying Anna although not too crazy about the possibility of her becoming the next Borg Queen with the whole notion of Bliss.
Georgie is an idiot. Even after Ryan told him that exposing a V to the world would only lead to their annihilation he tries to do that very thing. And you would think with all the constant monitoring of the news media and the surveillance conducted via the jackets not to mention the little probes that the Vs would be monitoring cell phone communications. Not too wise on Anna et al part to say as much as they have been over the phone line.
The ending pullback was quite good and the shot of what is presumably an awaiting invasion force heading towards Earth was a good ominous note to end on.
Above average--I might just stick with this series a little while longer rather than ditching it like I was poised to do last week. This episode managed to have a much better pace in advancing the story. For the first time there was a sense that it is driving towards something with a bit of urgency rather than the aimless feel the first 3 episodes had. It also infused the Vs with a nice sense of wonder such as the visit to their engine room.
I still don't care for Tyler or Lisa but Anna's plan for him might help make his storyline much more interesting than lovestruck teenage melodrama. I still have been enjoying Anna although not too crazy about the possibility of her becoming the next Borg Queen with the whole notion of Bliss.
Georgie is an idiot. Even after Ryan told him that exposing a V to the world would only lead to their annihilation he tries to do that very thing. And you would think with all the constant monitoring of the news media and the surveillance conducted via the jackets not to mention the little probes that the Vs would be monitoring cell phone communications. Not too wise on Anna et al part to say as much as they have been over the phone line.
The ending pullback was quite good and the shot of what is presumably an awaiting invasion force heading towards Earth was a good ominous note to end on.
Above average--I might just stick with this series a little while longer rather than ditching it like I was poised to do last week. This episode managed to have a much better pace in advancing the story. For the first time there was a sense that it is driving towards something with a bit of urgency rather than the aimless feel the first 3 episodes had. It also infused the Vs with a nice sense of wonder such as the visit to their engine room.
If they had bothered exploring Tyler's character and why he feels the way he does towards the Vs opposed to his mom it would make him more sympathetic. Way it is, he just seems like some anti-social twat whose been swept up in the latest fad and seduced by a pretty face.
Nice plan by the Vs though, infect everyone with some virus by tampering with our own vaccines so we'd flock to their healing centres and beg them to take charge.
The Bliss, wow. If I got to see a naked Morena Baccarin say sweet stuff to me I'd be a total zombie to the new order myself...
Nice plan by the Vs though, infect everyone with some virus by tampering with our own vaccines so we'd flock to their healing centres and beg them to take charge.
The Bliss, wow. If I got to see a naked Morena Baccarin say sweet stuff to me I'd be a total zombie to the new order myself...
The beginning of the episode was rather silly. "I'm conveniently suspicious of you for no apparent reason. Let me just check... *Gasp* No criminal record--you must be an alien!" Fortunately things picked up. The V's plan was sufficiently dastardly to amuse me, even if it degenerated into exploding warehouse cliché. The healing centers actually presented some interesting moments; Chipmunk-boy has a dilemna, and apparently Visitors and humans can crossbreed, which is a hell of a thing. Unless Boring-Girlfriend has been sleeping around, of course (and on that subject, what the hell kind of psychiatrist calls her patients 'clients'. That's cold.) There were a handful of moments that actually tried to evoke the awe that should come with an alien visitation, which they hadn't really tried to do since early in the pilot. Oedipus' storyline fizzled, although since nothing drastic has happened to him (yet), we might still get an amusing scene where Anna shows up at Juliette's house for the awkwardest mom-to-mom talk in several parsecs. And, yes, I loves me a panoramic shot of massed alien ships... and hopefully it won't just be a question of the V's military puissance, but play into the storyline. Do the Vs need Earth because they have such a large population to feed--intergalactic locusts? Are those ships even in good repair (at least one seemed to be listing rather pronouncedly), and the Earth fleet the polished-looking vanguard of what is actually a bedraggled migrant fleet? And what's up with skinning as a punishment: painful, sure, but removing the human flesh shouldn't be lethal. Does it go further, skinning even the lizard portions? Might the Vs be cannibals? Where are all the Vs who don't have a human disguise? For the first time, the show is raising questions it actually seems interested in answering.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
The skinning as a punishment thing threw me as well. Possibly the 'human suits' they put on actually become so connected to their systems that once they put them on and become attached to them their bodies can't take the complete removal of the human suit.
A couple of things just seemed a bit off to me. First off, why would the Doctor just be flat out talking in the open in his lab to the other guy about the resistance? Don't they have friggin surveillance systems on that mothership?
What was up with the alien security guy tracking down the priest to his church and stabbing him and then leaving. Umm shouldn't you be investigating him or torturing information out of him or something?
The Flu Vaccine... See Glenn Beck was right.
As to the shrink being preggers. Even if cross-breeding is possible like it was in the original (although I think they 'helped it along' on the ship in the miniseries somehow), wouldn't the V doctors have seen she was knocked up with a half lizard baby? They can tell the last time reporter guy stubbed his big toe, but their system can't tell that the chick has a lizard baby?
Honestly my first reaction when the doctors told her they found something else I expected their cellular scan found some left-over lizard jism in her...
But once she revealed it was a kid at the end I was wondering if they actually impregnated her in the lab as some kind of test because I don't really see how with their advanced cellular scans they wouldn't be able to tell she was knocked up by a V.
A couple of things just seemed a bit off to me. First off, why would the Doctor just be flat out talking in the open in his lab to the other guy about the resistance? Don't they have friggin surveillance systems on that mothership?
What was up with the alien security guy tracking down the priest to his church and stabbing him and then leaving. Umm shouldn't you be investigating him or torturing information out of him or something?
The Flu Vaccine... See Glenn Beck was right.
As to the shrink being preggers. Even if cross-breeding is possible like it was in the original (although I think they 'helped it along' on the ship in the miniseries somehow), wouldn't the V doctors have seen she was knocked up with a half lizard baby? They can tell the last time reporter guy stubbed his big toe, but their system can't tell that the chick has a lizard baby?
Honestly my first reaction when the doctors told her they found something else I expected their cellular scan found some left-over lizard jism in her...
But once she revealed it was a kid at the end I was wondering if they actually impregnated her in the lab as some kind of test because I don't really see how with their advanced cellular scans they wouldn't be able to tell she was knocked up by a V.
The show isn't terrible but the writing is so subpar. It's like that little speech about human predictability...that's really really bad writing.
That said I'll subject myself to more of it if it comes back...after all Jericho had a nice payoff and I stuck with that show.
That said I'll subject myself to more of it if it comes back...after all Jericho had a nice payoff and I stuck with that show.
Average. The show does enough right to make it watchable, but not enough to actually make it good.
BlackestPanther
Lieutenant Commander
They probably DO know. I was more concerned that the boyfriend wasn't freaking out. Or was he? I can't tell. The acting on this show is so poor.
The show just isn't pulling me in. I don't care enough about the characters to even remember their names.
That really does sum it up. Bravo.
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That was my impression, when they said "We found something else"
The skinning as a punishment thing threw me as well. Possibly the 'human suits' they put on actually become so connected to their systems that once they put them on and become attached to them their bodies can't take the complete removal of the human suit.
A couple of things just seemed a bit off to me. First off, why would the Doctor just be flat out talking in the open in his lab to the other guy about the resistance? Don't they have friggin surveillance systems on that mothership?
What was up with the alien security guy tracking down the priest to his church and stabbing him and then leaving. Umm shouldn't you be investigating him or torturing information out of him or something?
The Flu Vaccine... See Glenn Beck was right.
As to the shrink being preggers. Even if cross-breeding is possible like it was in the original (although I think they 'helped it along' on the ship in the miniseries somehow), wouldn't the V doctors have seen she was knocked up with a half lizard baby? They can tell the last time reporter guy stubbed his big toe, but their system can't tell that the chick has a lizard baby?
Honestly my first reaction when the doctors told her they found something else I expected their cellular scan found some left-over lizard jism in her...
But once she revealed it was a kid at the end I was wondering if they actually impregnated her in the lab as some kind of test because I don't really see how with their advanced cellular scans they wouldn't be able to tell she was knocked up by a V.
Maybe the V's did impregnate her, and the 5th colum V didn't do it?
as for the 'Skiining' I thought it was mentioned that in the 1st episode the V's human skin was Bio-attached so may be it grows onto their reptilian skin?
As for the way Anna said "Skin Him" there was pure joy in her eyes.
and as for the glimpse of her naked " Thank YOU!
Checkmate
Commodore
Anna didn't say "skin the human disguise off him." She said "skin him."
Regardless, we've seen that the V's suffer pain when their skin suits get damaged. Black Resistance Guy was certainly reacting to pain when his arm got sliced even though his real body was untouched. It's also got to be real enough to have passed cursory medical exams over the last few decades. Even if the doctor was told to just skin off the human flesh, it'd hurt like a mofo.
Regardless, we've seen that the V's suffer pain when their skin suits get damaged. Black Resistance Guy was certainly reacting to pain when his arm got sliced even though his real body was untouched. It's also got to be real enough to have passed cursory medical exams over the last few decades. Even if the doctor was told to just skin off the human flesh, it'd hurt like a mofo.
I thought the episode was OK, but I hope this doesn't end up being the series finale, rather than a midseason cliffhanger.
I'm concerned what the show might look like when it returns months from now. With all the reported changes in showrunners, if things are changed too much, and not for the better, it might lose me. But so far it's got my interest.
Alex
I'm concerned what the show might look like when it returns months from now. With all the reported changes in showrunners, if things are changed too much, and not for the better, it might lose me. But so far it's got my interest.
Alex
I feel the same way.
Either I got bored and missed it or they seemed to jump from location to location without reason. Just seems so disjointed at times.
But I do like how they continue to take shots at the government. They can't even safeguard our flue vaccines. lol
Same here. Looking forward to its return in January.
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