Most comics franchises.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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True, but probably not the best of examples. Most comics franchises are patently unrealistic.
What does realism have to do with it?
And that's a problem: when fans make their own productions, like Star Trek Continues, for instance, it's not that what they do is bad; it's that it's made for a very small subset of the potential audience, and that's not enough to keep the franchise alive. I don't know about you, but I'd rather see Trek continue with a different audience than see it die while trying to please the old guard like me.
Err... sure. Star Trek, Star Wars, Godzilla, James Bond, any major comic books character you can think of, doctor who, the Cthulhu mythos, and the list goes on and on.
Did you really somehow expect that I couldn't name one? Do you consume fiction at all? The point is simple, and I'm amazed that it somehow is controversial to you: fictional worlds that last a long time run into continuity problems, or they change hands and the new people in charge have different ideas, etc. It's just something you have to expect.
And they've been doing that in comics for decades. Marvel movies are just duplicating what was done in print. Your point?
I guess you're forgetting that originally the nacelles did in fact have exhaust ports, that are clearly visible in the early stock footage of the ship that continued to be reused until the end of the series.
Example: http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x03/wherenomanhasgone093.jpg
A complete catalog of ship footage is here: http://www.trekplace.com/tosfxcatalog.html
One can almost picture the smoke.
And flames!One can almost picture the smoke.
I wasn't suggesting that a new show have the same production values as a TOS fan production.
You're missing the point. Again.
It has nothing to do with production values. Did you even read my post? I said that the series was made for a small subset of the audience, namely fans of the original series. Production values are irrelevant if you're going to reproduce the original sets, props, uniforms and ships. Such a series would be doomed from the get-go.
RE: The DSC Enterprise. The lead art designer, or whatever the title is for the person Eaves answers to, was the one who said they should remove the spheres off the rear of the nacelles, since they shouldn't be there yet in this time period.
They don't appear until uhh.. Charlie X I think?
If you look at the art in the Eaglemoss book they are there in some of the early concept art.
Probably because they were basing it off TOS Enterprise as it appeared in most of TOS.
They don't appear until uhh.. Charlie X I think?
If you look at the art in the Eaglemoss book they are there in some of the early concept art.
Probably because they were basing it off TOS Enterprise as it appeared in most of TOS.
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"The Corbomite Maneuver" has the earliest production code, with the aft nacelle spheres:
http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x10/corbomitemanuever144.jpg
Rather than getting all bent outta shape at this point, I'm gonna wait till They actually show us the ENTERPRISE again further along in the seasons...
IF at that point she doesn't look a bit more similar to the TOS version, then I"ll bend over backwards bitchin' & moanin'.
But not too far, cause I'm old and I might break somethin'.
IF at that point she doesn't look a bit more similar to the TOS version, then I"ll bend over backwards bitchin' & moanin'.
But not too far, cause I'm old and I might break somethin'.
Be advised: the ship won't change an inch. I'm sure they won't go through another design process for a ship they've already built, just for a few minutes later down the road.
I'm fine with that.
There's no need to be snippy. And I fail to see how I'm missing the point. You're saying that reproducing the original sets, props, uniforms and ships would be doomed from the get-go, and I never said that I wanted that. All I said was that if I was in charge of producing a show set ten years before TOS, it wouldn't look like DSC.
Well whoop-de-doodle for you.
Take it from me, making factual 'Guesstaments' before the fact, almost always results in having to eat ones words around here.
(and it's not very nourishing to ones EGO)
While I have no doubt the Discovery Enterprise will probably never match exactly the TOS version, I do believe that They will bring her more inline with what has been seen before.
Otherwise there'd be no reason to specifically add to an episode script that she is going back to a Starbase for Repairs/Refit/Upgrade/Whatever.
And I"m fine with that also.
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As would I. I certainly would not have taken the design choices done by DSC. But, that's the point. It's art and art comes with artistic interpretation. I would prefer it continue forward with the designers trying something new.
Do I agree with all of it? Nope, not even a little bit. I can't stand the design of the Discovery ship itself, I do not care for the uniforms, especially the boots and collars, and the Enterprise is not favorite of several interpretations of the Constitution class.
Not, as others have mentioned, there is no need for any of the audiences members to accept these changes at all. I personally ignore TMP as much as possible in terms of story and changes. I also personally believe Star Trek should be rebooted or let die at this point the franchise as it does little but inspire constant agitation.
But, that's me.
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