USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

[PixelMagic]

At the end of the day, who the hell cares? Different strokes for different folks. Some people like things for how they are, Others think said things are dated and need updating. And some are fine with a compromise. Good for all that apply. Just agree to disagree and move on without the bickering. Opinions are like A**holes. Everybody has one. Unless you're Klingon.

Because sometimes you have nothing better to do, and it's interesting. And as long as it doesn't become hostile or disrespectful toward the other party, it's fine.

 

[fireproof78]

Wait, seriously? A man in his 30s won't watch any TV made before 2009, just because it's not in HD? That's bizarre. He's missing out on a lot of classic TV.

Sad but true. I've seen this with many viewers now. That's why visuals are not as important to me as to others. I don't want to miss something just because "aesthetics."

Not only do I completely disagree, but this strikes me as genuinely sad. I can't imagine how either of you guys can enjoy watching TOS with this kind of attitude. And without TOS as the ur-text... well, the rest of Trek is really just a series of increasingly degraded photocopies.

How is it sad? They have their perspective. In many ways, TNG attempted to distance itself from TOS and could largely be appreciated without seeing TOS. Even my wife, who isn't a science fiction fan, got engaged with DS9 without seeing TOS or TNG.

60's design style is 60's styling, Space Age or Atomic age styling. And it jumps out, the sets and design of the TOS ship scream it.

That doesn't help at all.

 

[lawman]

If there's one latter-day series that can stand on its own, I'd agree that it's DS9. But TNG, VOY, and ENT were really just playing out variations on the basic template that TOS had created... and for the most part done better.

Meanwhile, I know it's a tangent, but I seriously, honestly Do Not Comprehend how someone could let image resolution determine whether or not he's willing to watch a program. That's even more baffling than avoiding all the amazing movies from the Golden Age of Hollywood just because they're in black-and-white.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

That doesn't help at all.

You asked what the styling was called, so I told you.

 

[PixelMagic]

And as you said, the sovereign class still looks modern. The Inside might not, as you pointed out TNG sets scream "1990's"

I think the Sovereign interiors still work too except for the static backlit Okudagrams and the clearly 4:3 CRT monitors between them. Pop those out and replace with LCARS that move and animate like DSC and you're good to go.

This thread has been a real eye opener. Will Enterprise-D ever suffer this same level of revulsion? Maybe in twenty years.

I think the exterior still looks modern enough, except the nacelles. Something about them just seem too rounded. Modern scifi designs are a combination of swooping curved lines, rounded connecting parts, and hard edges on tight corners. The entire nacelle is just rounded without the other two qualities. The saucer and body have all three.

The interior of the Enterprise-D however, is getting very dated too, but no where near in the same ballpark as the TOS 1701 interior.

 

[fireproof78]

You asked what the styling was called, so I told you.

I looked it up. It doesn't fit

 

[CaptainMurdock]

For the sake of discussion, What do people about this.

 

[fireproof78]

For the sake of discussion, What do people about this.

Best thing to come out of the prequels.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

Best thing to come out of the prequels.

And the music.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I love most of the prequel art design. It was too good for the films.

 

[lawman]

The interior of the Enterprise-D however, is getting very dated too, but no where near in the same ballpark as the TOS 1701 interior.

IMHO the Ent-D interiors looked dated the day they premiered in 1987. I always thought they looked like some mid-priced hotel chain.

Seriously, though, this whole discussion is weird. I can't help but feel we're getting close to the point where it'll swallow its own tail and people will start insisting that TOS itself can't be canonical, because it just doesn't match up with later Trek!...

 

[Lord Garth FOI]

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one then. TOS designs look just one step above cigar-shape rockets and spinning saucers to me. Almost equally outdated in my eyes.

Outdated Like SpaceX Falcon rockets?
It’s all personal opinion and I do love you bro and I love most of your posts but here we are in 2018 and Werner Von Braun’s same basic design still rules the modern space age.
Cigar shaped atomic age rockets might be around for a while.
Personally the Hilton garden inn with extraneous blue neon sets of the next gen era look far more outdated than Jeffries original aeronautically engineered designs (minus the building materials and displays of course)
And frankly I do miss the days when actual scientists and military engineers consulted on sci-fi concept rather than caffeine and vape amped up slacker millennial baristas who think Everything should look like halo and Destiny
In my opinion

 

[fireproof78]

Seriously, though, this whole discussion is weird. I can't help be feel we're getting close to the point where it'll swallow its own tail and people will start insisting that TOS itself can't be canonical, because it just doesn't match up with later Trek!...

It doesn't and it isn't

And frankly I do miss the days when actual scientists and military engineers consulted on sci-fi concept rather than caffeine and vape amped up slacker millennial baristas who think Everything should look like halo and Destiny

I would agree if those ideas usually got ignored.

And now I want SG-1 back..

 

[CaptainMurdock]

On another forum I frequent. People will have the same arguments over and over again like it's groundhog day.

 

[PixelMagic]

...rather than caffeine and vape amped up slacker millennial baristas who think Everything should look like halo and Destiny
In my opinion

Lol. That made me laugh. In a good way, not because I disagree or anything. It was just a funny visual/thought.

 

[Lord Garth FOI]

Lol. That made me laugh. In a good way, not because I disagree or anything. It was just a funny visual/thought.

That’s why I love the forum mang

 

[Jesse1066]

Star wars had visual design that is more adaptable in modern day. Tos literally looked like models hanging on strings. Cos it was

Not really. It used the same techniques as just about anything else that films with models, just a bit more crudely.

Spoiler: largish image

 

[F. King Daniel]

Nope. Looks too primitive.

Discovery's version is almost perfect.

I'm not sure "primitive" is the word, but the classic Enterprise as-is wouldn't have fitted into Discovery's design aesthetic. It would have been the USS Sore Thumb, a tiny little bright white speck crewed by people in bright jammies wearing 60's hairstyles pushing jellybean buttons.

 

[CaptainMurdock]

Behold the modern aged Jelly Bean button.

 

[PixelMagic]

Behold the modern aged Jelly Bean button.

Discovery's consoles have buttons that either look exactly like that, or similar.