USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

[Gonzo]

I didn't mind the Hull detail but overall, I don't think it would fit. Also, I don't get why the nacelle pylons have windows.

I do like this design though:

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I like it but it doesn't fit in with any of the other ships we have seen in the series.

They have upped the detail which is a good thing but the nacelles don't match anything we have seen, not even close.

I really do wonder how they are going to address this after seeing the outline of the Defiant, they have painted themselves into a bit of a corner.

Unless of course they then show it is the Kelvin Universe, even though it doesn't look or feel like it to me.

The series does feel prime although some things are a bit off.

 

[F. King Daniel]

False advertising is illegal in some places (Sony and it’s claims for Vita PS3 remote play, I think, ran into this and they got fined.) but it’s all down to definitions of ‘advertising’ and how that being untrue pans out or is brought court. In this case...no, I don’t think it would pan out. In the Khan case...hmm..well, you would have to define press junkets as advertising (not that hard) and find a group of fans willing to go to court on the fact that they suffered some kind of harm by seeing a film with Khan in (these days, that may not be so hard xD) and then, somehow balance the logical defence of ‘maintaining a plot twist’. It would be a very silly day in court if it ever got going, though again...these days..in some parts of the world...it wouldn’t be a stretch. One for judge Judy.

Please try it. It would be hilarious.

 

[Longinus]

I like it but it doesn't fit in with any of the other ships we have seen in the series.

They have upped the detail which is a good thing but the nacelles don't match anything we have seen, not even close.

Nacelles don't match because apparently Eaves was specifically forbidden from giving any of the DIS ships round nacelles...

 

[Tuskin38]

I like it but it doesn't fit in with any of the other ships we have seen in the series.

They have upped the detail which is a good thing but the nacelles don't match anything we have seen, not even close.

I really do wonder how they are going to address this after seeing the outline of the Defiant, they have painted themselves into a bit of a corner.

My theory is they want the Enterprise/Connies to be unique, so it stands out among the other ships.

I don't think justification would be hard. The ship is allegedly around 10 years old at this point in history, the class itself probably older.

 

[jaime]

Please try it. It would be hilarious.

Gods no. My point is that it would be hilarious. Did you not catch the judge Judy thing?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Gods no. My point is that it would be hilarious. Did you not catch the judge Judy thing?

Ooooh, my bad. We live in a world where thousands of people are signing to get the latest Star Wars movie removed from canon, and where a couple of people genuinely believed Star Trek would end up public domain after the Axanar drama. I'm so jaded I don't know parody from reality anymore

 

[Mudd]

I can’t think of anything else that has ever done that on screen. (No, before Michael Keaton and Adam West get brought in here, adaptations don’t count. Which technically rules out Logan too.) You generally only only hear of one ‘reboot’ being a thing, and even the KT goes to lengths to make it not actually a reboot. (Which would mean if it is a reboot, it’s the only one, and not therefore unusual. It would however make it a reboot within a year of the previous continuity, which is also unusual, to borrow a phrase from NHK cooking programs ‘outside of Japan.’)

Nothing that any of the Trek productions have done constitutes actionable fraud in any way. Period.

 

[Ronald Held]

Is it just a fan based rumor that we will see the 1701 in tomorrow episode?

 

[Dukhat]

My theory is they want the Enterprise/Connies to be unique.

Easiest way to address it, all the other ships we've seen are newer then the Connies.

At this point they’d have to be. Look at the design lineage as far as nacelles go. Cochrane’s Phoenix that started it all had round nacelles. Then the NX-01 and the other pre-Federation Starfleet ships all had round nacelles. The Franklin had round nacelles. So, since the Constitution class was already in service by the time of DSC, and all we see are ships with square nacelles, then logic dictates that the Constitution class is older than the ships we’ve seen so far.

I’m interested in what the Enterprise is going to look like. Obviously there’s only three ways it could turn out:

1. The ship will look exactly like it did in TOS.

2. The ship, while still maintaining the standard saucer/secondary hull/dual nacelles on pylons design, will look completely different.

3. The ship will be a hybrid of TOS aesthetics and DSC aesthetics, and will look ridiculously silly (sorry, a judgment popped up there...)

 

[jaime]

Nothing that any of the Trek productions have done constitutes actionable fraud in any way. Period.

I am not talking about that. I am talking about any screen franchise having a third ‘reboot’. Pay attention 007. And I have also not said they ever have. Seriously. It’s called humour and subtlety.

 

[Gonzo]

My theory is they want the Enterprise/Connies to be unique, so it stands out among the other ships.

I don't think justification would be hard. The ship is allegedly around 10 years old at this point in history, the class itself probably older.

Yeah, the Shenzou is older though and has angular nacelles, I think they should have made the Shenzou more retro looking with rounded nacelles, it would have made the transition easier through Constitution to the more recent Europa and on to the Discovery.

We may find out tonight.

 

[Nightowl1701]

I’m interested in what the Enterprise is going to look like. Obviously there’s only three ways it could turn out:

1. The ship will look exactly like it did in TOS.

2. The ship, while still maintaining the standard saucer/secondary hull/dual nacelles on pylons design, will look completely different.

3. The ship will be a hybrid of TOS aesthetics and DSC aesthetics, and will look ridiculously silly (sorry, a judgment popped up there...)

4: The ship will have the TOS nacelles/pylons/deflector dish bolted on, be missing the torpedo 'neck' launcher and have TOS hull markings, but in all other respects will very recognizably be the TMP Enterprise.

 

[PixelMagic]

Is it just a fan based rumor that we will see the 1701 in tomorrow episode?

Sort of. I am a fan who does not work on the show at all. However, I know four people are are familiar with production of the show. Two of them have said for certain a Constitution class starship will show up in the finale, while the other two have heavily hinted at it. One of the four have also heavily hinted at it being the Enterprise itself, and one of them outright said yes, it will be the Enterprise. Being as four separate sources confirmed roughly the same information, I'm highly inclined to believe it to be true, even if I can't say it with 100% authority.

Basically breaks down like this...

Source 1 - Yes, the Enterprise will be in the finale
Source 2- Yes, a constitution class starship will be in the episode. Maybe the Enterprise, maybe not. (being coy)
Source 3 - A third party vendor is said to be working on Discovery merchandise based on the Connie. (They didn't say who the vendor was)
Source 4 - I have heard from the VFX dept that they are working on a Connie design and CG model.

 

[Tuskin38]

There was also that guy on reddit who said he worked on the Enterprise, then posted saying he meant the Discovery, but then deleted his entire thread.

 

[PixelMagic]

There was also that guy on reddit who said he worked on the Enterprise, then posted saying he meant the Discovery, but then deleted his entire thread.

Yeah. It could have been he realized he accidentally spilled the beans publicly and then backtracked out of it. Then deleted the thread to destroy proof of NDA violation.

 

[Tuskin38]

A vendor making Connie/Enterprise merch makes perfect sense, they'd capitalize on that right away, it's an iconic ship.

Well probably see stuff on startrek.com after it airs, like we did with the DISCO shirts and Mirror Universe merch.

 

[Jesse1066]

4: The ship will have the TOS nacelles/pylons/deflector dish bolted on, be missing the torpedo 'neck' launcher and have TOS hull markings, but in all other respects will very recognizably be the TMP Enterprise.

A bit like this?

 

[Mage]

The only thing that really makes me think we WON'T see a Connie.....

In this day and age, you'd think an image would have leaked by now.

 

[PixelMagic]

The only thing that really makes me think we WON'T see a Connie.....

In this day and age, you'd think an image would have leaked by now.

From what I understand, the art and VFX deparments are watched like a hawk. If that is the case, the only leaks would be word of mouth from people in the know, which is how I got my tip.

 

[Mage]

From what I understand, the art and VFX deparments are watched like a hawk. If that is the case, the only leaks would be word of mouth from people in know, which is how I got my tip.

I suppose that's a valid point. We'll now soon enough though.