USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

[Relayer1]

In the Star Trek world lots of ships do. DS9 battles were full of impossibly old ships.

I've always viewed Starfleet space frames as being pretty modular. Most bits could be swapped out when required.

Also, the volume of Federation space will increase massively with every light year added in any direction. Supply routes, communications, general trade and patrols, Starfleet could not supply enough new ships - with subsequent generations of new designs, older ships would be assigned non front-line duty but not scrapped.

 

[cooleddie74]

IF...what I've been told is accurate, you'll see the Enterprise somewhere in the next 5 episodes and it will be somewhat (but not drastically) redesigned. I hope that intel is true.

THE Enterprise?

 

[fireproof78]

Anything that requires discussion and intricate detailing of entirely presumed ways Voyager's EMH sees or interacts with his world in order to excuse an obvious continuity error is, indeed, a whopping great continuity error.

So,

Yep.

No, not really. What about Earth-Romulan War and "simple impulse?"

 

[Crazy Eddie]

No, not really. What about Earth-Romulan War and "simple impulse?"

We have collectively dissected that episode and picked it apart so many times and from so many different angles it's kind of amazing any of us can even watch it without chuckling now. Balance of Terror was early days, sure, which explains all the things in it that are so spectacularly inconsistent with literally everything that comes after it. But we come up with explanations for it anyway, because we're crazy.

 

[fireproof78]

But we come up with explanations for it anyway, because we're crazy.

Exactly. But, in my opinion, newer iterations (Not just Disco but Kelvin Trek) are not given such latitude. Things that older Trek got away with rate death for new series.

 

[Phoenix219]

Maybe the TMP Enterprise was only refit slightly, as per the real life definition, with new systems and what not, but visually, it was a retcon like the Klingons, and the ship was always meant to have looked close to that even on TOS. The refit was a plot point, but the audience assumed it explained the visual differences.

 

[David cgc]

Maybe the TMP Enterprise was only refit slightly, as per the real life definition, with new systems and what not, but visually, it was a retcon like the Klingons, and the ship was always meant to have looked close to that even on TOS. The refit was a plot point, but the audience assumed it explained the visual differences.

The Wall of Fame in the Rec Deck included the Enterprise as it appeared in TOS.

 

[cooleddie74]

It was an in-universe refit, not just a retcon that the creators hoped the audience would just handwave away. Scotty even says that the Enterprise has spent 18 months in drydock being redesigned and refitted. It didn't "always" look that way. For twenty-five years it looked like the TOS Enterprise and the rec deck display alcove confirms that.

 

[Phoenix219]

The refits could have been system-wide and internal, with the basic ship remaining the same, with a visual re imagining..

 

[Mirror Mirror]

It was an in-universe refit, not just a retcon that the creators hoped the audience would just handwave away. Scotty even says that the Enterprise has spent 18 months in drydock being redesigned and refitted. It didn't "always" look that way. For twenty-five years it looked like the TOS Enterprise and the rec deck display alcove confirms that.

People always ignore the "Redesigned" part and think that is a Refit. Scotty clearly separated the two. The TMP ship is a conversion not a simple refit.

 

[PixelMagic]

THE Enterprise?

Yes. NCC-1701. I don't know if it will be U.S.S. or I.S.S.

 

[CorporalClegg]

If that is true, I will joygasim.

Even if it looks closer to the wiremesh of the Defiant we saw. (Which I didn't think was all that bad.)

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Maybe the TMP Enterprise was only refit slightly, as per the real life definition, with new systems and what not, but visually, it was a retcon like the Klingons, and the ship was always meant to have looked close to that even on TOS. The refit was a plot point, but the audience assumed it explained the visual differences.

This.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ It doesn't explain the Defiant as seen in IAMD, or the TOS Enterprise in "Relics".

 

[Tuskin38]

According to M-A

In the final draft script for "In a Mirror, Darkly", a note read, "We'll suggest the Defiant is a slightly newer vessel than Kirk’s ship; the exterior shows slightly more detail... intricate hull plating patterns can be visible in reflected light, etc.", and Eden's model reflected this as such.

 

[Danlav05]

Now the Defiant has been teased I hope it appears. I expect Cosmetic changes but that isn't an issue or 1701.

One question is how do they link it with Mirror, Mirror; allegedly the first crossover?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

allegedly the first crossover?

There's very little evidence of that. And even so, are you so sure the Discovery crew will report what they've seen?

 

[Nerys Myk]

There's very little evidence of that. And even so, are you so sure the Discovery crew will report what they've seen?

They will and Starfleet will have top men working on it.

 

[Ovation]

Top. Men.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

They will and Starfleet will have top men working on it.

What men?