USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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Agreed. And yet I’ve seen arguments saying the tech must look futuristic else people won’t buy it - even if you explicitly point out to them what you’ve just said
So it might look like tubes from the 60s but it’s not? I’m actually ok with that - the tech has to have a futuristic *function* not a futuristic look - for me it could look like it runs on coal so long as it does something we can’t do in the 21st century (but could do by the 23rd).
I love this idea. It makes so much sense - didn’t you also suggest a while back that the hologram buttons could be reconfigured depending on what the console is being used for? To my mind, this idea truly updates the TOS controls - rather than just replacing them with iPads because that’s futuristic to non trekkers I guess?
Every so often the doctor changes the desktop theme
Tom Paris and the Delta Flyer agrees - probably because it makes sense!
Maybe the Enterprise bridge will incorporate more tactile switches (I doubt the awesome holo buttons idea will have occurred to them) because she’s an older ship than the disco? I suppose we’d expect the disco to have more touch screens as the timeline approaches the TNG era.
Agreed. And yet I’ve seen arguments saying the tech must look futuristic else people won’t buy it - even if you explicitly point out to them what you’ve just said
So it might look like tubes from the 60s but it’s not? I’m actually ok with that - the tech has to have a futuristic *function* not a futuristic look - for me it could look like it runs on coal so long as it does something we can’t do in the 21st century (but could do by the 23rd).
I love this idea. It makes so much sense - didn’t you also suggest a while back that the hologram buttons could be reconfigured depending on what the console is being used for? To my mind, this idea truly updates the TOS controls - rather than just replacing them with iPads because that’s futuristic to non trekkers I guess?
Every so often the doctor changes the desktop theme
Tom Paris and the Delta Flyer agrees - probably because it makes sense!
Maybe the Enterprise bridge will incorporate more tactile switches (I doubt the awesome holo buttons idea will have occurred to them) because she’s an older ship than the disco? I suppose we’d expect the disco to have more touch screens as the timeline approaches the TNG era.
Well I've often thought like the Doctor's Tardis, that plug n' play options on spacecraft controls were the best thing. If one breaks down, just grab another and plug it in. To me, light panel displays would be tough to repair in deep space, and since the TOS didn't have replicators, having a stash of extra controls would be advantageous. In the case of the Doctor's TARDIS, the ship has something similar to replicators, but much more advanced, call Matter Projectors. So in the case of the doctor and his analogue controls on the console, they just use the interior matter projection factory to create new components and the on replace them on the console. Of course, but the time of the Mark III the doctor upgrades to, the console comes with molecular stabilisers which can reformat the desktop, or repair damaged components via matter reformation, different from matter projection, as it takes the existing matter and reformats it to work again.
I would imagine a TOS enterprise having a workshop with extra parts for all their systems. Light panel controls are fine by TNG time frames, but given they have replicators, it's hard to see why an IPad type display wouod be better tech, given all the bumps and bruises the Enterprise seems to take on occasion.
For me, there are always practicle reasons to go with analogue switch controls. Namely toughness and repair.
I don't know how it is with other things, but phones that don't work if your fingers are cold or sweaty are very annoying. Plus, if your fingers are too large for the tiny alphabet, you can't use the eraser on a pencil because that won't work, either.
Until Human Beings actually evolve to the point where we don't need to use our hands/fingers, there is always going to be a need for physical controls and interfaces, even if just for backup purposes.
I doubt very much that will have happened by the 23rd Century.
I doubt very much that will have happened by the 23rd Century.
The Tardis is perhaps somewhat more of a living creature than the Enterprise as well - with the tardis I always thought (in later years anyway) that it was more like the ship was healing an appendage rather than replacing a damaged circuit. And of course the doctor has the old sonic to help things along...!
Definitely. Some kind of fabrication plant where the engineers actually engineer things! Cue DSC having them in leather aprons and steampunk goggles - but I suppose the concept would be there!
I wonder whether that android lady on the disco can interface with the ship?Until Human Beings actually evolve to the point where we don't need to use our hands/fingers, there is always going to be a need for physical controls and interfaces, even if just for backup purposes.
I doubt very much that will have happened by the 23rd Century.
The Anovos model is altered from the one in S1.
Season 1 Enterprise already looks different than the one in Season 2 Teaser
Anovos model clearly says prototype on it (basically subject to change).
Basically anything and everything you see is subject to change. And here we are obsessing over placement of certain pixels
And even in the mid-22nd century the early Earth Starfleet uses a lot of "analog"-style tech that wouldn't seem completely out of place in late 20th century or early 21st century NASA. There are precious few touchscreen controls seen aboard Enterprise NX-01 and many of the computer displays and terminals have a very 21st century, raw tech feel to them, as if they'd been approved by R&D not all that long before the ship was commissioned and built. Travis and Malcolm even mention in "Broken Bow, Part I(ENT)" that the transporter is so new that few people have ever bothered to use it. The Earth of the 22nd century seems very industrial in many respects, probably an outgrowth of the massive rebuilding humanity had to engage in during and after the Postatomic Horror. Starfleet tech doesn't begin to look smoother and more simplified for generations to come.
A global war that kills 600 million people and wrecks the planetary industrial base could have that kind of long-term effect on how human technology looks one hundred or even two hundred years later, even in a world where extraterrestrial influences and contributions are many.
Is that 100% confirmed? Because if so...
Someone gives a shit, they might have just messed up the number from another ship.Obviously, nobody who gives a chit, anyway.
They’re referring to a post I deleted about the Cardenas’ class size as I put it in the wrong thread. They responded too fast
You know, the more the Anovos model is shown, the better it gets. On this picture it looks the part quite well. I'm starting to like it a lot.
Get rid of the saucer, the neck, the support struts, the nacelles and thin out the secondary hull, and I would agree with you.
That looks much better.
Get rid of the saucer, the neck, the support struts, the nacelles and thin out the secondary hull, and I would agree with you.
Seems to me like you don't like the original so much.
I love the original, not fond of the "25% different" version.
Again, not so much, if you'd remove even the elements of the Discoprise that are near-identical to it.
A word of advice: if you want your opinions or arguments to be taken seriously, it'd be nice if you didn't repeat debunked claims. I can understand the satisfaction one feels in using mocking terms but it really doesn't help you.
Also, the TMP Enterprise is a lot more than 25% different. I suppose you don't like that one either, though you never answered my question about what it is exactly you like in Star Trek in terms of design.
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