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USS Constellation, NCC-1017

I don't think we can trust the VFX in those shots since there's a person in the background and they're taller than the rim of the Enterprise saucer. Unless we are meant to believe that the Lexington is manned by a crew of giants.

:wtf: The floating body is in the foreground, much closer to the virtual camera, just like the debris between "us" and the Enterprise. It is much clearer if one watches the scene in motion, not just a still here and there.
 
I don't think we can trust the VFX in those shots since there's a person in the background and they're taller than the rim of the Enterprise saucer. Unless we are meant to believe that the Lexington is manned by a crew of giants.

:wtf: The floating body is in the foreground, much closer to the virtual camera, just like the debris between "us" and the Enterprise. It is much clearer if one watches the scene in motion, not just a still here and there.

Yes, but the Lexington saucer is still in the background, behind the Enterprise, and still larger.
 
Are these the pics of which you speak?

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/xi/screencaps/trailer2/atrailer061.jpg

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/xi/screencaps/trailer2/atrailer060.jpg

If so, I see what you mean. That saucer is definitely larger than the Big E's.

As I already posted upthread, it isn't. The Enterprise is tilted to a fairly large angle (and not all of its saucer is even visible) and is approaching the other ship sideways on.

They seem to be roughly the same size to me. It's easier to tell when you turn the Enterprise back to horizontal and THEN look at the image.
 
^This might be true IF you fail to factor in that the Lexington saucer is farther away by a good distance.

Personally, if it hadn't had the name "Lexington" stamped on it, I would have written it off as part of another starbase as seen orbiting earth.
 
^This might be true IF you fail to factor in that the Lexington saucer is farther away by a good distance.

Personally, if it hadn't had the name "Lexington" stamped on it, I would have written it off as part of another starbase as seen orbiting earth.

That's just a "Lexington Industries" brand starbase, and you're seeing the "made by" label. ;)

Actually, I haven't seen "Lexington" written on the saucer in any of the stills provided or in the trailers.
 
If it were that close it would mess up the choreography of the scene in relation to the motion of the Ent moving forward, the speed in which it rolls to aboid the Lexington and the Lexington's motion as well.
 
^ That's just it, the Enterprise wasn't moving that fast relative to the Lexington. As the ship passes underneath it takes at least eight seconds to completely clear it, which gives a relative velocity of around 80 meters per second for a 720 meter starship. If the Lexington's saucer is 300 meters away in this image, Enterprise is about four seconds from impact until Sulu cuts in thrusters and drops down underneath.

Interestingly, we did see a WIDE ANGLE shot of Enterprise cork-screwing in space towards Lexington's saucer. In this shot, the saucer is of a similar size to Enterprise's saucer, but is much farther away.

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Assuming, of course, that that really IS the lexington and not some other unnamed ship. In my personal imaginings I'm beginning to think it might be a starship of the same class that Mad is developing right now.
 
Well it IS a ship, and has an NCC, but I remember seeing people in screencap analysis assuming it was the Farragut because it contained some of the same letters.
 
Wow, it looks like everyone has been having fun while I wasn't paying attention. :)

Well, I managed to scale the Constellation in relation to Enterprise, like I wanted... It comes out at about 590 meters. I arrived at that, by shrinking it until the saucer was a little smaller in diameter than Enterprise, and then measuring it with a "ruler" I had to build, since Blender sucks at measuring things.

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And, I built these things... they are pretty simple.

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Not as much progress as I hoped for, but I have to sleep some time. :)
 
^ Fabulous.

You know I've been thinking for a long time that it makes no sense to put the bussard collectors in the nacelles. This plus the NuEnterprise deflector design (and the fact that the warp core and fuel cells are apparently in the engineering hull anyway) leads me to believe the main deflector probably doubles as a ramscoop too, maybe generating a force field that sifts stellar debris pushing big things out of the way while allowing only interstellar hydrogen to be pulled into the collector.
 
Hey MadMan, I love where you're going with this. This ship "feels" TOSesque to me.

My only critique is the raised panels/ deep lines, all over her. They seem a little to pronounced.

Do you plan to place any gold, or rust coloured details in the deflector?

I can't wait to see this completed. <giggling in anticipation>
 
^ Fabulous.

You know I've been thinking for a long time that it makes no sense to put the bussard collectors in the nacelles. This plus the NuEnterprise deflector design (and the fact that the warp core and fuel cells are apparently in the engineering hull anyway) leads me to believe the main deflector probably doubles as a ramscoop too, maybe generating a force field that sifts stellar debris pushing big things out of the way while allowing only interstellar hydrogen to be pulled into the collector.

With all due respect, the time to raise this question was probably thirty years ago.

Of course, that's with regard to the old ship and the original timeline. With the new version, anything's possible.
 
^ Fabulous.

You know I've been thinking for a long time that it makes no sense to put the bussard collectors in the nacelles. This plus the NuEnterprise deflector design (and the fact that the warp core and fuel cells are apparently in the engineering hull anyway) leads me to believe the main deflector probably doubles as a ramscoop too, maybe generating a force field that sifts stellar debris pushing big things out of the way while allowing only interstellar hydrogen to be pulled into the collector.

With all due respect, the time to raise this question was probably thirty years ago.
I wasn't born thirty years ago. I've been raising it with groups of nerds since I was old enough to spell "ramscoop" though.

Of course, that's with regard to the old ship and the original timeline. With the new version, anything's possible.

Indeed.:techman:
 
Mad, JJ is smoking crack if he does hire you for the next movie. At least you make sense...
 
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