I don't think that Pocket feels any compulsion to follow anything in STO. STO did borrow elements of the pre-Destiny timeline for use in fleshing out the period between 2409, but I don't think that Pocket feels compelled to return the favor.
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I don't think that Pocket feels any compulsion to follow anything in STO. STO did borrow elements of the pre-Destiny timeline for use in fleshing out the period between 2409, but I don't think that Pocket feels compelled to return the favor.
STO was incompatible with the novelverse from the beginning. It borrowed a few elements from the novels, like the Titan and President Bacco, but completely disregarded the events of the DS9 post-finale novels, contradicted the version of Species 8472 I developed for Places of Exile, and so on. So there was never any prospect that the two could be unified.
After playing STO for a while, I'm getting a little sick of how they have to classify everything as an unfathomable evil out to destroy the universe from Species 8472, to the mystery aliens from ENT, to the Voth, the Legion of Doom (err sorry Klingon Empire), and Iconians.
Well they did seem to be going on about how "The weak shall parish" before that got reconted.
Well they were combined with the guys from TNG who were doing horrible medical experiments on people.
They're not trying to destory the galaxy they just called dibs on the dyson sphere and want Starfleet, the Romulans, and the KDF to f@#k off.
Meh, so the klingons went back to being bad guys big deal.
Only Picard thought they weren't evil. Considering their probes infected ships with a computer virus that destroyes said ships they don't sound very friendly.
Its like ignoring the fact that the Gorn carpet bombed Cestus III instead of just yelling at the feds to get out of their space, when going on about how they don't have a biligerent streak.
Besides its just going back to the TOS notion that the galaxy was filled with ancient scary things that want to kill you.
The game turns Star Trek into a setting about space battles and blasty things. That fundamentally misuses the setting.
The best Trek games were always more than that. Whether that be the old Interplay adventure games (25th Anniversary and Judgment Rites were some of the best TOS "episodes" ever recorded), to the better TNG era games. The problem is that we've moved from those to slapping the Trek license and name onto things that could be interchanged with any other license.
The best Trek games were always more than that. Whether that be the old Interplay adventure games (25th Anniversary and Judgment Rites were some of the best TOS "episodes" ever recorded), to the better TNG era games. The problem is that we've moved from those to slapping the Trek license and name onto things that could be interchanged with any other license.
Actually they weren't. The players believed that for a while, but it was refuted.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Elachi#Notes
Actually the TOS notion was more often that the scary things were misunderstood and could be made peace with. I don't think you see that much in STO.
I remember that happening one time with the Horta, where as the rest of the time it was a salt vampire that had to be killed or a crazy murderous android that had to be put down.
Hardly "the rest of the time."
"The Corbomite Maneuver": A big scary creature in a giant ship threatens to destroy the Enterprise, but turns out to be a friendly guy who was just testing them, and they open diplomatic relations.
"Charlie X": The "monster" is a troubled child who ends up being taken care of by the only beings who can contain his power.
"Balance of Terror": The enemy commander is a decent man who regretted being ordered to fight, and destroyed himself as much to undermine his Praetor's war plans as to fulfill his duty.
"The Menagerie": The Talosians who once took Pike prisoner now take him under their protection and care.
"Shore Leave": The deadly hazards of the planet turn out to be harmless recreations.
"The Squire of Gothos": The powerful superbeing turns out to be a child, and his parents apologize for the trouble he caused.
"Arena": The "evil" alligator-people turn out to be defending their territory against perceived invaders, so the whole thing was a tragic misunderstanding.
"The Devil in the Dark": The deadly monster turns out to be a mother protecting her young, and they end up making friends.
"Catspaw": Okay, one of the aliens is evil, but the other is just a scientist trying to learn, and he sacrifices himself to try to stop her.
"Metamorphosis": The alien abductor turns out to be lonely and in love, and a happy accord is reached.
"The Gamesters of Triskelion": The brains are pretty nasty, sure, but they're defeated with a sporting wager and convinced to behave more constructively from now on, rather than destroyed.
"By Any Other Name": The invading aliens are won over by human emotions and convinced to abandon their plans in favor of peaceful settlement.
"Spectre of the Gun": The aliens who try to execute the crew are convinced we're not so bad and agree to begin diplomatic talks.
"Spock's Brain": The brain thieves are convinced to give up brain-napping and man-enslaving in favor of rebuilding a healthy society.
"Is There in Truth No Beauty?": The hideous alien is a wise and soulful being whose union with a human telepath will help the Federation.
"The Empath": The alien torturers are convinced they've lost sight of their goals and shown a more compassionate way.
"Day of the Dove": The evil entity is not destroyed, but driven away with laughter and goodwill.
"Whom Gods Destroy": The malevolent madman is cured, not killed.
"The Savage Curtain": The abducting aliens are convinced to let our heroes go because of good sportsmanship. Or something.
Okay, there are a significant number of "destroy the evil thingie" stories in season 2, and to a lesser extent in season 3, but they're more than balanced by stories where the threat turns out to be not evil after all, or where it's defeated/escaped through ingenuity and noble principles rather than brute force.
And then of course in the animated series, they almost always resolved the crisis without violence, except in "The Slaver Weapon."
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I wonder if the destruction of Romulus will be the end of the Typhon Pact storyline. That would be how I might do it. If you take the Romulans out of the Typhon Pact, that makes it very hard for the other lesser powers to pose much of a threat to the UFP/Klingon/Cardassian/Ferengi alliance.
A supernova destroying Romulus and Remus is a minor event next to the ridiculous extreme of Cold Equations #3: The Body Electric.
While that is true, the first wave of Typhon Pact novels referenced Countdown - Picard being offered the role of Ambassador in Paths of Disharmony, for example.Christopher said:
Paralleled it, perhaps. But other books have conflicted with it.
Besides, just because STO's creators have chosen to reference Countdown and vice-versa (the comic used the game's future uniform designs), that doesn't mean the novels couldn't have theoretically tied into it as well if they'd wanted. After all, it's not like there are any real timeline divides here; it's all a bunch of stories. And it wouldn't be the first time that two incompatible Trek tie-in continuities have referenced the same set of events from a third source -- since, of course, all tie-in continuities have to incorporate the same canonical episodes and films.
What one front line soldier says during the heat of battle is hardly indicative of the species as a whole. If a US solider said "Kill them all" that doesn't mean we're a nation of genocidal maniacs.
Their leaders seemed more reasonable later on certainly.
I would figure before Hobus there would be at least 1 story heavily dealing with Spock. Since afterwards he is kind of removed from the stage of the 24th century. Nice opportunity to wrap up loose ends. Use him or lose him.
There are many options the writers can use of the future of the Romulan empire. All that is canon is that Romulus was destroyed, that's it. So it could be a few planets, which is no more a big deal than the destruction the Borg has already wrought. Or it could be almost entirely annihilate their Empire or anything in between. Also, we don't know if Hobus only affected the Romulans and no one else, Nero didn't bother to mention how it affected the other powers of the galaxy.
There are many options. It doesn't have to be doom and gloom.
There are many options the writers can use of the future of the Romulan empire. All that is canon is that Romulus was destroyed, that's it. So it could be a few planets, which is no more a big deal than the destruction the Borg has already wrought. Or it could be almost entirely annihilate their Empire or anything in between. Also, we don't know if Hobus only affected the Romulans and no one else, Nero didn't bother to mention how it affected the other powers of the galaxy.
There are many options. It doesn't have to be doom and gloom.
Unless they kill him off in the next film, he could also pack his stuff and return.
Was wondering about this. While Star Trek has shown many times the ability to 'time-warp' to the past (and I suppose the future as well) jumping back and forth between 'parallel time-lines' seems like a different undertaking altogether.
And remember Spock Prime lost his 24th century starship....the technology of parallel 2258 may not be enough to cross him back over to the Primeverse even if possible.
Plus, Spock considers himself responsible for what happened. He's not gonna just go, "tough titties" to the AU and Sliders his way home.
But this has been the case for the last 20 years. Spock was a tie-in service character ever since TUC left the theaters.
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