You mean like not Enterprise's own NCC-1701/7 Galileo?
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Unseen TOS....
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And this is key. If I want my designs to have a ring of credibility and authenticity they have to be based on what was possible at the time.
Any thoughts about the DY-750 Class for Star Trek (Matt Jeffries' Leif Ericson design):
this means nothing in regards to the project in this thread, but the upper version on page 5 of sketches there resembles a Zeon Dopp fighter from Gundam
The fact the Romulan BoP had nacelles kinda set a pattern into play. And we would see that alien ships could or might not have nacelles in similar sense as the Enterprise has.
My initial concept for the Klingon scoutship was more triangular, but then I just carved some bits from it.
My initial concept for the Klingon scoutship was more triangular, but then I just carved some bits from it.
I had this AMT model way back when. It’s interesting that Star Trek Continues used this design to depict an Orion ship.
But on some level it never really impressed me as something I would likely see in TOS. Indeed there were quite a few designs in TAS that, while quite interesting, don’t really look like something Matt Jefferies would have done.
Not Star Trek? Then why does the model have an optional Phaser Projector?
No, it's Star Trek alright, just very early Star Trek.
No, it's Star Trek alright, just very early Star Trek.
The original kit didn’t have that. Here’s the write up about the Leif Ericson. It was definitely not a part of the Trek universe but it was designed by Matt Jeffries and later quasi-adopted into the Trekverse by the fandom. Never appeared as such on-screen, however, so not canonical Trek. Not now, not ever. Sorry… 
I'm still working on sketches, but nothing I'm enamoured with yet.
That said I'm also working on something more real world--building shelves for my front room as well as a small bench for my entrance hallway (someplace to sit to put on or take off my shoes). I'm thinking of giving them a weathered grey finish to go with the grey wood finish of my computer desk.
That said I'm also working on something more real world--building shelves for my front room as well as a small bench for my entrance hallway (someplace to sit to put on or take off my shoes). I'm thinking of giving them a weathered grey finish to go with the grey wood finish of my computer desk.
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Exploring an idea for a 22nd century era starship for TOS that could be glimpsed in "Return Of The Archons" on a bridge monitor screen. Basically I'm thinking of something that could have possibly influenced the Romulans' Bird of Prey warship design, at least from a distance. It also has to be something that could hint at or point to designs that would eventually evolve into the Constitution-class ships.
I've had my own ideas there, but I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
The original Archon class from the Heavy Cruiser Evolution Blueprints...
In other words, something obvious.
In other words, something obvious.
I have had precisely two Leif Ericson model kits. Both had a chrome part labeled 'Phaser Projector '.
The first one that I had I received as a gift in 1968...
The second one I bought in the last ten years or so.
I never had the UFO version.
The first one that I had I received as a gift in 1968...
The second one I bought in the last ten years or so.
I never had the UFO version.
Me too. "UFO Mystery Ship" version only. Still have it sitting on my shelf, too, although I'm not entirely sure where the "scout ship" got too.
Here are the instructions scanned from the original sheet. No phasers. Those clearly came in later re-releases.
Oh, and don't let the faded "Star Trek" reverse label on top fool anyone. There are other kit instructions on the sheets behind the scan. I can make out the original Mr. Spock panorama kit as well as the Klingon D-7 lower down. The bottom line is that this was never meant to be a Trekverse kit.
I honestly hope this puts the debate (that really never should have been a debate to begin with) to rest.
Here are the instructions scanned from the original sheet. No phasers. Those clearly came in later re-releases.
Oh, and don't let the faded "Star Trek" reverse label on top fool anyone. There are other kit instructions on the sheets behind the scan. I can make out the original Mr. Spock panorama kit as well as the Klingon D-7 lower down. The bottom line is that this was never meant to be a Trekverse kit.
I honestly hope this puts the debate (that really never should have been a debate to begin with) to rest.
Since AMT asked MJ to design another space ship model to follow up on the amazing success of the original Enterprise; I think in AMT's mind, it was a Trek model.
In my personal, juvenile head-canon, back in the 70s, it was a Gorn ship...
So glad to see you "back in the saddle," Warped9!
I know you're experimenting with Sketch-up, but if you have any spare cash around, I can't recommend enough my favorite 3D modeling program for mechanical models: MoI3d (Moment of Inspiration). https://moi3d.com/
At $295 it is well worth the price for a professional-grade solid surface modeler, built especially with the needs of the artistic (and non-technical) modeler in mind. Starship modeling is a breeze, with CAD tools doing perfect boolean operations with no polygon artifacts. I've modeled the big E with polygon-based tools twice; but, my latest effort was a breeze -- right down to the modeled windows--with MoI:
MoI solid model:
Finished in Blender:
In any case, I am following your progress with enthusiasm.
M.
In my personal, juvenile head-canon, back in the 70s, it was a Gorn ship...
So glad to see you "back in the saddle," Warped9!
I know you're experimenting with Sketch-up, but if you have any spare cash around, I can't recommend enough my favorite 3D modeling program for mechanical models: MoI3d (Moment of Inspiration). https://moi3d.com/
At $295 it is well worth the price for a professional-grade solid surface modeler, built especially with the needs of the artistic (and non-technical) modeler in mind. Starship modeling is a breeze, with CAD tools doing perfect boolean operations with no polygon artifacts. I've modeled the big E with polygon-based tools twice; but, my latest effort was a breeze -- right down to the modeled windows--with MoI:
MoI solid model:
Finished in Blender:
In any case, I am following your progress with enthusiasm.
M.
I wouldn’t say I’m “experimenting” with SketchUp given the results I can get out of it. But I will check out MoI3D. Of course, it has to work with Mac and be optimized for Apple Silcon or it won’t work for me.
…Okay, it can be used for Mac, but I haven’t found it if it’s optimized for Apple Silicon yet.
…Okay, it can be used for Mac, but I haven’t found it if it’s optimized for Apple Silicon yet.
You're gonna burn out your 3D printer.
Guys, you’re all right that technically, the Leif was not meant to be a Trek ship. It was meant to be an AMT model that would follow up on the success of the Enterprise and Klingon battlecruiser kits. But it WAS designed by Jefferies, it WAS meant to follow the two iconic Trek models, and it DID incorporate the same “submarine in space” logic Jefferies used for the DY-100. I really think - at least to my eyes - what he created here looks like a draft design. In other words, it was good enough for AMT but I suspect it would have gone through a few more generations of edits if it were meant for Star Trek. And given the similarity to the DY, I would think his intention was for it to be an Earth design from somewhat later. Not as advanced as the ringship but more advanced than the DY-100. Whoever called it a DY-750 is probably not that far off the mark in trying to read Matt Jefferies’ 1968 mind.
So technically, not Trek. But practically, yeah… as close as it can get, but probably polished some more.
So technically, not Trek. But practically, yeah… as close as it can get, but probably polished some more.
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