Unseen TOS....
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If the scene where Kirk contacts Dailey to ask him to forego his pickup of the Karidian troupe were restructured then we could have gotten a quick clear shot of the Astral Queen in orbit. Otherwise, as I noted, some of the physical details could be painted on or even left off.
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Yes, the Astral Queen might have not been even at the planet, yet. A closer approach scene that would have been good would be with the Antares rendezvous.
I'll admit that when you dropped your original four nacelle design, which had a basic similarity to your Antares, I was slightly disappointed. And seeing the first render of the new design, I wasn't sure of it. But it has come together with the detailing VERY nicely.
Oddly enough, when home ports were mentioned by @Kahloke , Alpha Centauri was the first that came to my mind (honest)!
Perhaps as well as those further away orbit shots of the Astral Queen with the Enterprise, that departing shot could have been used, either after the scene where Kirk asks Daley to strand the Karadin troupe, or before the scene where Lenore tells Kirk they've been let down?
Again, great work, @Warped9
Oddly enough, when home ports were mentioned by @Kahloke , Alpha Centauri was the first that came to my mind (honest)!
With such a well built and detailed model, a closer approach would be warranted.
Perhaps as well as those further away orbit shots of the Astral Queen with the Enterprise, that departing shot could have been used, either after the scene where Kirk asks Daley to strand the Karadin troupe, or before the scene where Lenore tells Kirk they've been let down?
Again, great work, @Warped9
So, roughly what dimensions would see her scaling out at against the Enterprise?
Plus, with that level detail, what size filming miniature might have been built to give us the possibility of one or two closer up shots, like the departing shot you gave us?
EDIT: And considering her role, shields perhaps, but would she have any armaments, perhaps not standard, but could Daly have put minimal weapons on her?
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I usually put "stern chasers" on merchant ships. Space is big and help might be distant. So you run and try to make yourself unattractive.
The ship is about 7 decks thick. It’s roughly similar in size to the saucer hull of the Enterprise although not as spacious. In terms of volume it’s less than half the size of the E’s saucer.
I will work out the size. I am obsessive enough to have worked out a rough deck layout for the simple purpose of placing windows, something I usually do.
I will work out the size. I am obsessive enough to have worked out a rough deck layout for the simple purpose of placing windows, something I usually do.
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My thoughts are also turning to the next subject, and something I have never done before although I know others have tried it over the years.
Going back to WNMHGB we got to see an old style phaser rifle that, design wise, had much more in common with the laser (and later phaser) pistols seen in the two pilots. And we never see the phaser rifle ever again onscreen. Evidently we never really saw a story justification for the rifle to be used again, but is that the only reason? What happened to the original prop?
The next obvious question: what could a TOS era phaser rifle have looked like if Jefferies or Chang had designed one? And by this I mean a design more in keeping with the redesigned phaser pistol seen throughout the series, and one of the coolest looking pieces of sci-fi hardware ever envisioned.
I admit I have very little knowledge of how the laser pistol, phaser rifle and subsequent Phaser 1 and Phaser 2 were designed, so anyone with any info please share.
Going back to WNMHGB we got to see an old style phaser rifle that, design wise, had much more in common with the laser (and later phaser) pistols seen in the two pilots. And we never see the phaser rifle ever again onscreen. Evidently we never really saw a story justification for the rifle to be used again, but is that the only reason? What happened to the original prop?
The next obvious question: what could a TOS era phaser rifle have looked like if Jefferies or Chang had designed one? And by this I mean a design more in keeping with the redesigned phaser pistol seen throughout the series, and one of the coolest looking pieces of sci-fi hardware ever envisioned.
I admit I have very little knowledge of how the laser pistol, phaser rifle and subsequent Phaser 1 and Phaser 2 were designed, so anyone with any info please share.
I think [B]@Donny[/B] did one of these a few years back and might potentially be a good source of information.
I have always dug the pilot-era aesthetic, moreso than the series itself. It was a little more muted, and a lot more grounded. Same with the phaser rifle. It was a very cool prop, looking powerful & dangerous. To my mind it, along with the laser cannon from the cage, were the only two weapons from the series that truly looked like they could lop the top off of a mountain without even heating up.
That being said...
The phaser rifle also struck me as something Roddenberry et. al. added in order to sell the series to producers who wanted “more action”. If The Rifleman gets a Winchester, why not Captain Winter/April/Pike/Kirk? Once the series had been sold, Roddenberry’s pacifism may have informed a deliberate decision to bring the rifle to an early retirement. The way in which writers wrote about phasers, they were tools as often as they were weapons.
I’m still interested in your take on it, though.
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I think the foont used by early AMT models was called MACHINE
I've dinked around with the Aurora over the years, coming from the perspective of spending a few more dollars on modifying the dart. This is where I was when I last lost interest:
Very nice.
Now I seem to remember the top clamshelling open. You might put a type two phaser in there.
Matt might have just shrunk down the cannon from THE CAGE which looks as if it might be the stalk we see on the lower sensor dome--as if it could detach or float down.
No one has fleshed out the phaser-bore from TAS, which looks very powerful and has not been fleshed out:
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Phaser_bore
It looks a bit like a Bird of Prey disruptor...
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Agreed on both counts. Rifle shot at Mitchell looked cool, even if it wasn't affecting him!
And based on Number Ones' line about "transmitting ships power", I almost thought the laser cannon on the surface was one of the ships weapons taken off the hull, transported down, and used on the rocky knoll with the lift doors for precision! And where FJ then got the idea for the phaser bumps on vessels blueprints!
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I’m willing to bet the plan was to modify the WNMHGB rifle to bring it more into line with the TOS pistol, perhaps by removing the “radar dish” barrel and replacing the grip with a click-in TOS pistol or power pack.
Cool! Actually I think I might have seen this sometime ago.
If that upright antenna can get power from a central source…it makes Mitchell’s ability to withstand the beam even more impressive.
So the U.N.C.L.E. rifle really wasn’t just a P-38 Megatron deal…This phaser rifle is timeless. It doesn’t quite fit the look of the other phasers.
So help me…it would fit Space 1999 better.
So the U.N.C.L.E. rifle really wasn’t just a P-38 Megatron deal…This phaser rifle is timeless. It doesn’t quite fit the look of the other phasers.
So help me…it would fit Space 1999 better.
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