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Underrated TV Shows.

TedShatner10

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OK here's my personal list of TV shows which are underrated:

The Sarah Jane Adventures
Stargate SG-1 (the Showtime years)
Enterprise & Voyager (if you cherry pick the better episodes)
Dark Skies
Space: Above and Beyond
Truckers (stop motion animated mini-series)
The Sarah Connor Chronicles
NCIS
CSI: NY (around S2 onwards)
Seven Days
The Outer Limits (mid 90s remake)
The Prisoner remake (mostly for Ian McKellan as Number 2 and the ultra glossy production values, rather than the rest of the scripting/story quality)
 
The only one of these shows that I know and don't intensely dislike is Space: Above and Beyond and I'm not sure that one's underrated, isn't it considered a bit of a cult tv show?
 
How can a CSI show be underrated?

He means critically. It's not a case of these shows not being popular or highly rated, as several of them certainly are or were, but the shows on that list often don't get a lot of respect, either from the general public (CSI is often considered a "guilty pleasure" which is a backhanded compliment if ever there was one) or by fans (Enterprise being the poster child - we're just now starting to hear from people discovering ENT for the first time whose opinions aren't colored by the hatred for the "Killer Bs" and other issues that doomed the show before it even aired an episode.)

I can't argue too much with that list. I definitely agree that The Prisoner remake was not only underrated but underappreciated. It turned out 1000x better than I'd expected, and this is coming from someone who was in the "they should never remake it" camp and who still considers the original the best TV series ever produced. It dropped the ball in many places, and I'm not 100% sold on the casting of Number 6 (I was rooting for Christopher Eccleston, who was rumored as being in the running), but it was a lot better than I expected and it wasn't a remake, but a reimagining, which is the only way such a project could or should be undertaken.

I'd say Enterprise as a whole falls into the underrated category. It had no greater percentage of bad episodes than TNG or DS9, but it had the bad luck of coming at a time when the fan base was wanting a divorce from the then-current production regime, and nothing could have been done to save it, or the TV franchise at this point, IMO. The irony of course is Enterprise's "failure" (note quotes: no SF series that survives 4 complete seasons on American network TV can be considered a failure) opened the door for the JJ Abrams reboot. Which in many ways was far more controversial than a dozen "A Night in Sickbay"-style episodes.

I'm also going to add Doctor Who to the list. This even though the show is one of the most critically acclaimed SF series of the last 20 years, has garnered a stack of BAFTA and Hugo awards (to name just two), and has attracted writers of no less calibre than Neil Gaiman and Richard Curtis (not to mention Michael Moorcock and Brian Aldiss in the literary arena). (And I'm not even going into the "classic" era series for which the likes of Douglas Adams and Stephen Gallagher wrote). Despite all this, you still get people dismissing it as "just a kids show", and reviews often take the wind out of DW's sails by harping about "campy" special effects, etc. DW is a weird duck because it's managing to attract huge ratings, massive acclaim and awards, yet at the same time massive amounts of disrespect from certain quarters, perhaps due to (cue Craig Ferguson) the fact it emphasizes intellect and romance over brute force and cynicism.

Alex
 
I'd say Enterprise as a whole falls into the underrated category. It had no greater percentage of bad episodes than TNG or DS9, but it had the bad luck of coming at a time when the fan base was wanting a divorce from the then-current production regime, and nothing could have been done to save it, or the TV franchise at this point, IMO.

I'm sorry but that's simply not the case, no matter what Enterprise fans want to believe. I'm sick of hearing those excuses.

Enterprise had over 13 million viewers for it's pilot episode, I think it got the highest ratigns ever for UPN. People wanted to like it, no one wanted a "divorce" from the creators. It sucked, the old creators made a bad show full of horrible characters, that's why the show "failed", that was after the fact. The fans were there, they ditched, live with the facts.
 
I'd say Enterprise as a whole falls into the underrated category. It had no greater percentage of bad episodes than TNG or DS9, but it had the bad luck of coming at a time when the fan base was wanting a divorce from the then-current production regime, and nothing could have been done to save it, or the TV franchise at this point, IMO.

I'm sorry but that's simply not the case, no matter what Enterprise fans want to believe. I'm sick of hearing those excuses.

Enterprise had over 13 million viewers for it's pilot episode, I think it got the highest ratigns ever for UPN. People wanted to like it, no one wanted a "divorce" from the creators. It sucked, the old creators made a bad show full of horrible characters, that's why the show "failed", that was after the fact. The fans were there, they ditched, live with the facts.

Agreed. It was an AWFUL show. It had a MUCH higher percentage of bad episodes that TNG or DS9, along with stiff boring characters.

It was utterly lacking in ideas.

I will say this: the pilot gave me great hope. It was more of a Wild West than we had seen in a long time, with weirder locations and odd baddies. And then...

Bleh.
 
I would say British shows (genre shows in particular) in the U.S.

They are critically well recieved, but it feels odd that hardly anyone here has even heard of Life on Mars. I've met a few people over the years who like Doctor Who though.

I'm sure the fact that these programs are regulated to airing on BBC America doesn't help much.
 
Caprica
Dead Like Me
Dollhouse
Everwood
Firefly
Party Down
Pushing Daisies
Veronica Mars

Wonderfalls
 
It had a MUCH higher percentage of bad episodes that TNG or DS9, along with stiff boring characters.

That's your opinion, I'm not going on opinion.

The facts are the viewers were there in HUGE numbers for the pilot and just ditched the show. I think you are right that it's because it was never well thought out or planned well. However whatever the reason the people ditched AFTER they watched the show. If they wanted a divorce from the creators they simply wouldn't have watched in the first place.

Also whomever hired the "actors" on the show needs to be fired forever.
 
I can't judge what the critics like or not, since I rarely pay attention to what they say. But here are some shows that just seem to get little attention, yet are/were very watchable:

Miracles (for as long as it lasted)
Jericho, S2
Party Down (VERY funny, can't believe it got cancelled!)
Archer (VERY funny, and not cancelled!)
The Clone Wars (not just a kiddie show, not at all...vast improvement over the PT in many crucial ways)
Weeds (I gave up on it in S1, but I'm jumping back into S5 on DVD - clever, fast-paced, some terrific comic actors in the mix)
 
Out of all the shows mentioned by people in this thread the only one I agree that is underrated is Life Unexpected. Veronica Mars is another show that was quite good but I don't think it is underrated--critics liked it and the only buzz on the internet I've heard about it has been positive.

ENT did have boring characters and the first two seasons just recycled stories which were pretty mediocre. S3 was really good but uneven and S4 was decent.

I can think of a lot of overrated ones-The Sopranos, Mad Men, BSG was a good series but the praise it received when it was on the air was over-the-top.

Friday the 13th: The Series was a great little late 80s series I think gets overlooked. I liked the short-lived Tru Calling and Threshold.
 
I want to add Jericho to my earlier list...

After the mixed 1st half of the opening season, the show did less soap crap and became a thrill ride. I was so hooked by the end of season 1 and the short lived season 2 was not only a perfect example of the strength of shorter seasons but one of the best seasons produced on American TV full stop.
 
Crusade was a lot better than it gets credit for. Sure, it had its flaws, but it also had some great characters, an excellent lead and a number of fine episodes. It was pretty funny as well.
 
Well, guessing at critical reception gets more factoidal than factual. But I'd agree that Stargate SG-1 and Miracles and Threshold and The Outer Limits (either version actually) don't get much acclaim or even respect. But they were rather good. I'd add Kings and Rubicon.
 
From this season: Running Wilde Not GREAT, but clever

On that subject, Arrested Development never got the incredible praise and ratings it deserved.

I think 30 Rock is the greatest thing since, well, Arrested, but there's a lot of people who seem to despise it for some reason, and it's never been a ratings darling.
 
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