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Uhura's Birthplace?

There's a "new" character on the 100, Diyoza, who was a tried and jailed war criminal on Earth before Judgement day. Hundreds of years later, on a different planet, one look at her and John Q public is pulling weapons on her, then one of them said something like "Your face is in the history books, right next to Adolf Hitler and Osama Bin Ladin."
 
...How many of us could recognize either of those clowns today? There's nothing particularly distinct about either, save for the facial hair, and Khan here is smooth as an android's bottom, too.

Significantly, Kirk does not recognize Khan by looks, in any timeline. But McGivers either connects the dots, or then is intimately familiar with the face to begin with. This mostly depends on when exactly she started that painting.

Timo Saloniemi
 
26 episodes later in Patterns of Force, when Kirk orders a uniform for McCoy.

We've having difficulty. Patch historical computer into uniform section. I want McCoy outfitted as a Gestapo doctor Nazi Germany, old Earth date 1944. Make him a colonel.

They invented Time Travel in The Naked Now, but steppingback 24 hours is hardly cautiously exploring temperamental history like in Tomorrow is Yesterday or City on the Edge....

What a Starfleet officer was at that point, after Tomorrow is Yesterday, had to be redefined, and the entire crew (every crew, every officer, and every able crewman) had to be requalified to deal with time travel. Some classes, and a test. 4 weeks at most. No need to literally go back to the Academy.

This is why Archer said nothing.

If he couldn't pass the test, they would have taken his ship, and replaced Jonathan with a nerd.
 
What if she couldn't pronounce his first name? ;)
Then Sulu should've dumped her ass.
While McGivers would be entitled to throwing deliberate disinformation at Kirk, considering her nearterm plans regarding the superman, it's indeed a bit of a risk to identify a man as a Sikh by virtue of him sporting the major telltales of a non-Sikh. But being a historian, McGivers might be aware that Sikhs have been extinct for so long that neither Mr. "I always get your endless world wars confused" Spock or Jim "I'm a history buff, ask me anything at all about the Wild West" Kirk would have the faintest idea of what a Sikh is.
I will never understand how you must constantly watch TOS assuming that every single character is either a liar, an idiot, or both.
 
The writers weren't really sure as to what year Star Trek was set in let alone why an infamous Sikh warrior like Khan wasn't wearing a turban!!!
JB
 
I will never understand how you must constantly watch TOS assuming that every single character is either a liar, an idiot, or both.

Well, people in general are. But competent lying at least calls for a bit of continuity, which is the ingredient missing from episodic writing, which brings in the idiocy element...

Assuming that the villain of the piece is a liar isn't particulary daring, though.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Yippers, that is exactly the only reason why the gay man should dump the lady with ladyparts.
I hesitate to open up this can of worms, but Prime Sulu, from all available evidence, was straight. Even the makers of the Kelvinverse acknowledged this when they decided to reveal that Kelvinverse Sulu was gay.
 
What available evidence? There isn't any...

And why would George Takei (who is in fact gay) object to a character he played being gay? :confused:

He just does. And TOS evidence that Sulu was straight can be seen in "The Way to Eden", when the hippie girl tries to entice him, and he says "How do you know what I want?" in a very arch and amused tone. Who but a straight man would brush off a hot girl like that?

Super-straight:
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x05hd/theenemywithinhd008.jpg
 
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I hesitate to open up this can of worms, but Prime Sulu, from all available evidence, was straight.
What available evidence? There isn't any...
Well, for starters, Sulu shows quite an interest in Uhura in both "The Naked Time" and "Mirror, Mirror." (And yeah, it was the Mirror-Sulu in that episode, but no one commented or expressed any surprise that Mirror-Sulu was interested in a woman.)

Sulu is also affected by the women in "Mudd's Women," like every other man on the ship:
SULU: You're on duty, Johnny-o. Back to reality.
FARRELL: You can feel their eyes when they look at you, like something grabbing hold of you. Did you notice that?
SULU: I noticed. How I noticed. Come on, Johnny.

He also shows quite a bit of attraction to Lt. Ilia in the longer edition of TMP, to the point of hitting the wrong button on his console.

His daughter is seen at the beginning of Generations, and we're told that Sulu had a family. (This wouldn't be the same daughter we see in Star Trek Beyond, as the ages don't match up.) Presumably Demora was intended to be his biological daughter from a heterosexual marriage.

Sulu also had heterosexual romances in the novels The Entropy Effect and The Captain's Daughter, and in several Star Trek comics, including an annual co-written by George Takei himself.

So yeah, there is evidence that Sulu was in all probability heterosexual.
And why would George Takei (who is in fact gay) object to a character he played being gay? :confused:
As Takei said in many interviews at the time, he didn't like a previously-established character being "revealed" as gay. He thought it went against the original intentions of Gene Roddenberry, who created the character of Sulu, and he believed that it carried the potential connotation that Sulu had been closeted for years. There's also the unfortunate implication of "Oh, the actor is/was gay, so therefore his character must be too." It's rather disrespectful to Mr. Takei as an actor to imply that he can only play characters just like himself.

Takei was all for more gay characters in Star Trek. He just thought that it should have been a brand new character instead of Sulu.
 
What available evidence? There isn't any...

And why would George Takei (who is in fact gay) object to a character he played being gay? :confused:

1. He wanted Hiraku to be gay 40 years ago and they said "No" because it was too hard. Now it's really easy, and profitable, with no negative consequences, they expect George to say thank you and retroactively force an illusion that star trek has been lgbt friendly since the beginning.

2. Its condescending to make Sulu gay because George is gay. Not because %25 of future people are gay in a world were they are loved and respected for their orientation, but because they want to steal celebrity from George's life story, which was difficult.

3. George worked really hard to clamp down his flair, and play it straight. He created a straight character with a daughter, and now 50 years later he's either being told that no one for a second believed that Sulu was straight because his acting was shit, or that he really didn't have to try so hard and could have spent the whole time playing grab ass with Checkov.
 
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Well, for starters, Sulu shows quite an interest in Uhura in both "The Naked Time" and "Mirror, Mirror." (And yeah, it was the Mirror-Sulu in that episode, but no one commented or expressed any surprise that Mirror-Sulu was interested in a woman.)

Sulu is also affected by the women in "Mudd's Women," like every other man on the ship:


He also shows quite a bit of attraction to Lt. Ilia in the longer edition of TMP, to the point of hitting the wrong button on his console.

His daughter is seen at the beginning of Generations, and we're told that Sulu had a family. (This wouldn't be the same daughter we see in Star Trek Beyond, as the ages don't match up.) Presumably Demora was intended to be his biological daughter from a heterosexual marriage.

Sulu also had heterosexual romances in the novels The Entropy Effect and The Captain's Daughter, and in several Star Trek comics, including an annual co-written by George Takei himself.

So yeah, there is evidence that Sulu was in all probability heterosexual.

As Takei said in many interviews at the time, he didn't like a previously-established character being "revealed" as gay. He thought it went against the original intentions of Gene Roddenberry, who created the character of Sulu, and he believed that it carried the potential connotation that Sulu had been closeted for years. There's also the unfortunate implication of "Oh, the actor is/was gay, so therefore his character must be too." It's rather disrespectful to Mr. Takei as an actor to imply that he can only play characters just like himself.

Takei was all for more gay characters in Star Trek. He just thought that it should have been a brand new character instead of Sulu.
And in The Animated Series episode “The Magicks of Megas-Tu,” Sulu briefly conjured a woman apparently as a potential love interest:
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As Takei said in many interviews at the time, he didn't like a previously-established character being "revealed" as gay. He thought it went against the original intentions of Gene Roddenberry, who created the character of Sulu, and he believed that it carried the potential connotation that Sulu had been closeted for years. There's also the unfortunate implication of "Oh, the actor is/was gay, so therefore his character must be too." It's rather disrespectful to Mr. Takei as an actor to imply that he can only play characters just like himself.

This also sets a dangerous precedent in Hollywood. The 21st century has seen several gay actors coming forward with the idea that only gay actors can or should play gay characters, and/or that the characters that gay actors play should be gay. This has the double-edged sword stigma of not only dismissing the actor's talent at portraying something they are not, but gives ammunition to the anti-gay crowd that inevitably will indulge in writing so that there are no gay characters, if for no other reason than to deny gay actors work. A return to the days of studios marrying off their gay actors to hide their homosexuality, so they can have the best actors for the roles available, is something we do not need at this late date.
 
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