U.S.S. TITAN -- THE WINNER!

[Geoff Thorne]

Way to go, Sean!

That is one sweet ride right there.

:thumbsup:

 

[KRAD]

But this isn't a "Starfleet builder." This is a "real" person.

It's a real person pretending to be a Starfleet builder. Part of the contest was to come up with something that conformed to existing Starfleet designs. It was right there in the contest rules.

 

[Stag]

I wonder what the background is of the designer.

It would be great if he was just a fan who dabbled in drawing starfleet designs and decided to enter the contest for the heck of it.

 

[Geoff Thorne]

Posted by BriGuy:
Nifty (if a tad derivitive).

>snip<

It just seems like fans just copy what they see put out by TPTB. For instance, ever since the NX-01 came out, how many fan-designed ships have had a notch at the front of the saucer? Since Voyager and the Ent-E, how many fan ships no longer have a connecting dorsal? Or, like the Titan, has elements of the catamaran from the NX-01 on the saucer?

It's the official designers who seem to take the ships in new directions, and the fans who just copy them. Not saying I haven't done the same thing myself with my doodles.

ALMIGHTY ZARQUON!

Can the man bask in the glory of his success for FIVE FREAKING MINUTES without somebody claiming he's "copying" existing designs?

It looks like a Starfleet vessel and manages to be something no one has seen before. Drawing within the lines takes more skill than drawing whatever you want willy nilly.

Form follows function. Starfleet vessels have a certain look.

Drop it, please. It's bad form to **** on somebody else's party.

At least wait until later. You know: after they clean up the confetti, spilled beer and puke.

 

[Marco Palmieri]

Amused observation: In the different boards where this is being discussed, the design has so far been linked, variously, to the NX, the Intrepid, the Miranda, the Nebula, the Sovereign, and the Akira classes.

It's interesting how those quick to point out whatever derivative elements the design may have aren't agreeing on what it's derived from.

 

[MichaelS]

I don't see the resemblance to the Intrepid myself, but I certainly notice similarities to the other classes you mentioned. That itself is not bad - just look at the Nebula vs. the Galaxy design, or Constitution vs. Miranda. As for "not agreeing": it all depends on what element you focus on. Sensor pod? Nebula. Nacelles? Akira. Saucer? [/i]Sovereign[/i]. I'm grossly oversimplifying, of course. In my "career" as fan designer, I've come up with more than a few ships that would not pass muster among the more critical members of the crowd.

It doesn't matter. Congratulations to Sean! I'm looking forward to reading his thoughts.*




*Yes, I'm a mindreader. You didn't know?

 

[Nathan_Heller]

Great design for the Luna-class Titan. You can see it's lineage in the features (I don't mean that in a negative way) and other touches that make it unique.

It's nice to have a face to go with the name, so to speak.

Nathan

 

[Bobatiel]

Posted by Marco Palmieri:
Amused observation: In the different boards where this is being discussed, the design has so far been linked, variously, to the NX, the Intrepid, the Miranda, the Nebula, the Sovereign, and the Akira classes.

It's interesting how those quick to point out whatever derivative elements the design may have aren't agreeing on what it's derived from.

And it further shows how consistent the design is with the traditional Starfleet look.

Hey Marco, how many entries were there, and now many were involved in the final consideration process?

 

[Marco Palmieri]

^Too many to count, but a couple hundred, easily.

There were ten finalists, and I intend to post the highest-scoring three or four of them (besides Sean's).

 

[Scout101]

Not bad. It's kinda the Nebula-Variant on the Sovereign Class, with some Voyager tossed in for good measure. All of which kinda makes sense, given the time period and the stated mission of the ship.

The nacells on the side-view picture seem a little large, but look more proportional in the other views...

Overall, good job. Curious to see some of the 'losing' designs. Off to Trek Art, I suppose!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Posted by KRAD:

Nifty (if a tad derivitive).

Yeah, boy, perish forbid that a Starfleet ship look like, y'know, a Starfleet ship.

Sorry, but there's nothing to indicate that Starfleet shipbuilders go all that far outside the lines, as it were. Titan was going to have a similiar feel to the other ships.

I like this one, I really do.

Although I admit I always wanted there to be a Vertical ship in Starfleet. (I wonder if any of the other Titan designs were done that way...)

 

[Braxton]

Posted by Marco Palmieri:
Amused observation: In the different boards where this is being discussed, the design has so far been linked, variously, to the NX, the Intrepid, the Miranda, the Nebula, the Sovereign, and the Akira classes.

It's interesting how those quick to point out whatever derivative elements the design may have aren't agreeing on what it's derived from.

Among those, I'm seeing a little Sabre-class with the nacelles and nav deflector.

Congrats Sean! Cool design, definitely fits in with Starfleet ships.

 

[fleetcaptain]

Congrats Sean. I like the design myself. I was hoping to see one of the ones I had seen submitted on Scifi-Meshes but I like this one too. It's a lot different from the other classes and I really like this one. Hope to see more soon.

 

[captcalhoun]

i find it looks oddly familiar... must have either a)seen something similar by the same guy or b)by someone else...

it does look 'starfleet' though. it's got the arch of a miranda, the blended hull of an intrepid, the fore of a sovereign and front on looks a tad nebula...

i think overall, i like it. personally, i would just designed a smaller sovereign/bigger nova, but hey...

 

[JD]

I like it, it's fairly unique, but still fits in with the Starfleet designs.

 

[Christopher]

Posted by BigJ:
Also, the name "Titan" made me think of a big ship, not a little larger then Voyager and a little smaller then E-D

Which is exactly why it didn't end up being one. Where's the fun in giving people what they expect?

Posted by kdalton_69:
I like the design a lot. That being said, I don't really see any aft-firing weapons other than the torpedo launcher. No aft-dedicated phaser arrays? Then again, my eyes are bad.

It's meant as a science vessel rather than a warship, so don't expect it to be bristling with weapons.

Posted by BriGuy:
It just seems like fans just copy what they see put out by TPTB.

Well, isn't that the whole point of creating in someone else's universe instead of your own? Exploring variations on the themes they establish? You might as well complain that they keep using terms like "warp drive" and "phaser" instead of making up new ones. Anything based on Star Trek is derivative by definition.

Or, like the Titan, has elements of the catamaran from the NX-01 on the saucer?

I see that as being based more on the Nebula's sensor pod, crossed with the Miranda's "rollbar." Doesn't look NX-01-like to me at all; that ship's "crossbar" component is in the same plane as the saucer, not above it.

Posted by Sci:
It just feels a bit retro, is all.

Well, that's entirely appropriate. After all, it was designed before the Dominion War, but then got pushed aside in favor of more combat-oriented designs.

 

[The Batman]

Well, to be quite honest...

I just don't like it.

No offense to the artist. It's just not what I picture when I read "Taking Wing," nor is it what I was hoping to see.

I saw designs in this very forum that I felt would have been perfect, especially one by a certain individual who was too young to enter the contest.

Again, this is just personal preference. It's certainly a hell of a lot better than anything I'm capable of. But it's still just not terribly pleasing to my eyes.

That said, congratulations to Sean for what is definitely a HUGE honor in any Trek fan's book.

The Batman

 

[Cronos6939]

It was said that the top three or four runners-up will be posted within a week or two.

Are those designers who didn't win now allowed to post their own work for others to see??

If there were several hundred but only a handful will be shown on the official website, I'm sure many people would be interested in seeing most of the possibilities.

 

[Emissary of the Prophets]

Stop whinging(those that are)!

What did you all expect?
It looks like a Starfleet vessel, it conforms to all the rules & I love it.
All Starfleet ships take their basic design features from the Enterprise NCC-1701. The saucer, the deflector, the nacelles, etc.

Sean did a bloody good job, if you don't like it...TOUGH!

Once again, well done Sean :thumbsup:

 

[Edward Jellico]

Definately shows a few different design lineages, though it does look like a modern ship. The low slung nacelles kinda remind me of a Runabout. A good design.


I'm just wondering, all the Luna class ships have had Sol moon names. Will any of the moons in other systems be used?