Two Skeletons

[137th Gebirg]

^^^ I'm starting to think that as well. Especially since Anubis (male) and Taweret (female) are prevalent in the ancient imagery of the island, perhaps the skeletons are their remains, if they were, in fact, real people. Possibly the first "custodians", who either helped in the engineering of the island or "assigned" to be there by other Ancients, possibly Atlantians or Lemurians, who were the original island architects.

 

[Plomeek Broth]

Bump. 11 eps left (9 single plus 2 hour series finale)

I'm still going with Adam and Eve being Jacob and MIB. Darlton said they had these skeletons in Season 1 as a way of showing the viewers that they knew where the story was going from the beginning.

7 eps into Season 6.
Who do you think they are? Rose/Bernard? Sun/Jin? My correct answer? Vincent/Hurley bird?

It's Jacob and MIB. *does the hustle*

 

[Mallet]

But Jacob burned up and turned to ashes. Kind of hard to have one of those skeletons being his if he has no bones left.

 

[doubleohfive]

I kind of like the idea that it's Bernard and Rose given that they're probably the two people who deserve to get off the island the most and the tragedy therein of the rest of their lives, though happily together, playing out on the island.

That said, I'm still open to the possibility that those skeletons could be other people. Don't quite get how, logistically, it could be Nikki and Paolo and even Hurley seemed to be suggesting that the skeletons could be any of them given that the island and/or they all had been moving through time.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Checkmate]

The big clue is the inclusion of black and white stones, which only seems to fit Jacob and Smokey currently. But as mentioned, Jacob's death resulted in cremation, so it could only be a "past version" of him, which means that a significant paradox would have to occur.

The only other real option, if you account for the stones and assume that they result in the guardian and the prisoner on the island, is that they're Jacob and Smokey's replacements after some time travel shenanigans. Which with only 11 hours left doesn't seem too plausible unless we get a closing epilogue at the very end of the show.

 

[label]

The big clue is the inclusion of black and white stones, which only seems to fit Jacob and Smokey currently.

So, I hate to point out the obvious, but Rose and Bernard are literally black and white...........

 

[RoJoHen]

The big clue is the inclusion of black and white stones, which only seems to fit Jacob and Smokey currently.

So, I hate to point out the obvious, but Rose and Bernard are literally black and white...........

Yes. Yes they are.


Actually, I kind of like the idea of it being Sun and Jin. Maybe one will be evil, and one will be good, but they still end up together.

 

[Checkmate]

The big clue is the inclusion of black and white stones, which only seems to fit Jacob and Smokey currently.

So, I hate to point out the obvious, but Rose and Bernard are literally black and white...........

So you're saying the show is going to go painfully racist by hooking them up with colored stones that denote their race.

 

[doubleohfive]

The big clue is the inclusion of black and white stones, which only seems to fit Jacob and Smokey currently.

So, I hate to point out the obvious, but Rose and Bernard are literally black and white...........

And there's no irony lost at all here, considering your username.

 

[label]

The big clue is the inclusion of black and white stones, which only seems to fit Jacob and Smokey currently.

So, I hate to point out the obvious, but Rose and Bernard are literally black and white...........

So you're saying the show is going to go painfully racist by hooking them up with colored stones that denote their race.

I'm not sure where you're getting the racist thing from, I was just observing that there may be more choices then just Jacob and Flocke that might correlate with the black and white stones. If observing that Rose and Bernard have different skin colors is racist........hmmmm....not sure what to say about that in this absurdly over-sensitive PC world other than that racism was not my intent on pointing out that they may fit the bill.

 

[label]

The big clue is the inclusion of black and white stones, which only seems to fit Jacob and Smokey currently.

So, I hate to point out the obvious, but Rose and Bernard are literally black and white...........

And there's no irony lost at all here, considering your username.

Nope. No irony lost whatsoever.

 

[RoJoHen]

So, I hate to point out the obvious, but Rose and Bernard are literally black and white...........

So you're saying the show is going to go painfully racist by hooking them up with colored stones that denote their race.

I'm not sure where you're getting the racist thing from, I was just observing that there may be more choices then just Jacob and Flocke that might correlate with the black and white stones. If observing that Rose and Bernard have different skin colors is racist........hmmmm....not sure what to say about that in this absurdly over-sensitive PC world other than that racism was not my intent on pointing out that they may fit the bill.

I don't think it's "racist," but it would be weird for whoever put the stones there to feel the need to label the dead people as "black" and "white." Otherwise, all those stones are doing is saying, "This skeleton was a white guy, and this skeleton was a black chick," which seems like an unnecessary distinction to make.

 

[label]

I don't think it's "racist," but it would be weird for whoever put the stones there to feel the need to label the dead people as "black" and "white." Otherwise, all those stones are doing is saying, "This skeleton was a white guy, and this skeleton was a black chick," which seems like an unnecessary distinction to make.

I'm not saying I necessarily believe it is Rose and Bernard. The only point I thought I was making was in response to this comment:

The big clue is the inclusion of black and white stones, which only seems to fit Jacob and Smokey currently.

While this theory may be true, this show has been known for some pretty inventive twists from time to time and I think there are other possibilities that we might consider beyond Jacob and Smokey because of the rocks.

Some of those options might be:

Rose and Bernard
Flocke and whomever replaces Jacob
whomever replaces Jacob and Flocke both
Jack and Kate (I could see Kate staying with Jack if he takes over for Jacob.....I could also see Kate taking over for Flocke though that seems less likely.....)
Two other people who are killed on the island sometime over the next 10 episodes
Two people we've never even met. (though I doubt it)

The point is, while the rocks may indicate who is in the cave, it also might be very misleading and those rocks could be there for completely different reasons.

 

[RoJoHen]

The only thing that makes the it weird is the fact that the people obviously died several decades earlier, so for those skeletons to belong to anyone from the current cast, they would need to time-travel again.

 

[label]

The only thing that makes the it weird is the fact that the people obviously died several decades earlier, so for those skeletons to belong to anyone from the current cast, they would need to time-travel again.

It wouldn't surprise me if the series finale will involve some sort of time travel that sends one or more people back to undo what Smokey has done and those will be the skeletons. Course this is Lost so I'm probably completely wrong.

Honestly I haven't given all that much thought to who the skeletons though the fact that they revisited them again this season mean's it's highly likely we'll know who they are by the time the season's over and it's likely to be someone we met.

I dunno, maybe the two skeletons are Jacob and Flocke's mom and dad.

 

[Checkmate]

I'm not sure where you're getting the racist thing from, I was just observing that there may be more choices then just Jacob and Flocke that might correlate with the black and white stones. If observing that Rose and Bernard have different skin colors is racist........hmmmm....not sure what to say about that in this absurdly over-sensitive PC world other than that racism was not my intent on pointing out that they may fit the bill.

Sorry, but that is painfully racist. The only reason to make that "observation" in response to anything I've said in my original post is to say that the show is marking them with colored stones for the SINGULAR purpose of denoting the color of their skin. For no reason whatsoever, other than TO denote the color of their skin. Even though the color of their skin hasn't even been a noteworthy topic or characteristic of Rose and Bernard whatsoever in the show.

The fact that you can't identify that as a racist comment just makes it all the more obvious that it's genuinely an insultingly racist comment. Much like trying to associate the game of Chess of all things to racism.

 

[label]

Sorry, but that is painfully racist. The only reason to make that "observation" in response to anything I've said in my original post is to say that the show is marking them with colored stones for the SINGULAR purpose of denoting the color of their skin.

Dude (or dudette), either you are nuts, looking to pick a fight or don't actually know what the word "racism" means.

The definition of "racism" is as follows:

discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion

Neither the show or myself is saying anything negative about Rose because she's black or Bernard because he's white or that the stones might be hints as to who the bodies are.

The only thing I ever said is that those stones may represent someone besides Jacob and Flocke and one of those possibilities may be Rose and Bernard.

I mean, this seems pretty obvious to me because they've (Rose and Bernard) already told us on screen that they are never leaving the island and they've already separated themselves from everyone else so it makes perfect sense that if the island somehow time travels again that they would live out their remaining years together and the bodies ends up being them.

And if it is them, the writers will have pulled another one of their twists on us because most people like yourself think that the stones represent side a/side b or good/bad while all along they were giving us a much more straight forward, literal hint as to who they might be and this wouldn't be the first time they've done that.

If you remember in Season 1 we heard about the black rock and most people assumed that it was probably a large block rock somewhere on the island. However, that was misdirection and it ended up being a ship.

All's I pointed out here is the writers of Lost are rarely so obvious as you seem to think they are being here and it's possible that are intentionally misleading us into thinking the bodies are someone they're not.

Now, I'm posting this in good faith that you just weren't clear before and misunderstood what I was saying earlier and that no one here or on the show is being racist in any way. However, if you're planning on going on another diatribe about how pointing out that the symbolism in the show might be more literal than we think is really a thinly coated racist attack, then don't bother because I certainly won't be wasting any more of my time.

 

[Mallet]

People also have to remember that the two skeletons were placed in the cave, that means there needs to be a third person who put the bodies in there.

 

[label]

People also have to remember that the two skeletons were placed in the cave, that means there needs to be a third person who put the bodies in there.

Not that I'm saying you're wrong, but why is that neccessarily the case? It's been a while since I've seen that episode in season 1 so I don't remember what was said. I *thought* Jack said it was a male and a female but I could be dreaming that part up. That being said, they are referred to as "adam and eve".

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Adam_and_Eve"]http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Adam_and_Eve

Edit:

Actually, according to the article it is likely a woman and man.

Jack explained in "House of the Rising Sun" that one skeleton was that of a woman and the other was that of a man.

The other couple it could be is Jin and Sun.

 

[RoJoHen]

People also have to remember that the two skeletons were placed in the cave, that means there needs to be a third person who put the bodies in there.

Not that I'm saying you're wrong, but why is that neccessarily the case? It's been a while since I've seen that episode in season 1 so I don't remember what was said. I *thought* Jack said it was a male and a female but I could be dreaming that part up. That being said, they are referred to as "adam and eve".

I think he just means it's unlikely that both of those people just decided to lay down and die. Someone else had to put their bodies there after the fact.