Tweaking Star Trek History

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by EnriqueH, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. EnriqueH

    EnriqueH Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2014
    Location:
    Miami
    So how would you change TOS history if you could wave a magic wand and alter it a bit?

    I'll go first:

    Season 1 would be the Adventures of Captain Pike. We'd see these characters fleshed out.

    Season 2 would be Where No Man Has Gone Before with Kirk, Spock and the TOS we all know and love, except it would go on for 5 seasons...

    Cancellation

    Star Trek Phase II is launched...for one Season...we'd meet and expand upon Xon, Decker and Ilia. I would've liked to have seen more of Ilia particularly. The tiny bit I saw of Xon in a screen test indicates some potential...

    Paramount graduates Trek to the silver screen with Star Trek: The Motion Picture to cash in on sci-fi craze started by Star Wars and Close Encounters.
     
  2. johnnybear

    johnnybear Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    I'd liked to have seen phase II as well, especially since Kirk seemed to be wearing the same type of uniform from the series but without Spock in it, well it just wouldn't be the same would it? Where did they get that footage of Shatner and Robert Reed in the woods as seen on youtube and various places,anyone know?
    JB
     
  3. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Cartoon Premium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2001
    Location:
    Vasquez Rocks, Bajor
    My guess would be the film "Pray For the Wildcats", which also starred Andy Griffith.
     
  4. BillJ

    BillJ Canon Warrior Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2001
    Location:
    Escaped from Trumpistan
    I'd trade the spinoffs for the first thirteen episodes of Star Trek: Phase II.
     
  5. telerites

    telerites Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2014
    Not made "Spock's Brain" or "Turnabout Intruder" :devil:
     
  6. Forbin

    Forbin Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    Location:
    I said out, dammit!
    Well it's hard to fit them both in one uniform!

    :cool:
     
  7. CaptPapa

    CaptPapa Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2009
    Location:
    I really do not know . . .

    Yeah, this!

    ME
     
  8. plynch

    plynch Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2007
    Location:
    Outer Graceland
    MAYbe. It all depends, for me, on script quality. The seventies look/vibe (see Buck Rodgers & Space 1999) MIGHT have been cool or even cheesier than the 60s go-go boots.

    You have read the alternative history wii entries all about this right? Lucy's dead pal tells her not to sell to Paramount, the big showrunners all stick around, and Trek goes five years, etc....

    It's really kond of sad, because it would have been wonderful. Though the original 79 have brought me lots of joy over the years.
     
  9. Maurice

    Maurice Fact Trekker Premium Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2005
    Location:
    One ferry ride from Starfleet HQ

    It's romantic fanwanky nonsense, if an appealing fantasy. :)
     
  10. PCz911

    PCz911 Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2014
    Oh, that is scary. I loved space:1999 but buck rodgers just lost me. The design of the former was ok (hey, I loved Gerry Anderson and his UFO series) but the latter .... Ugh
     
  11. Hypaspist

    Hypaspist Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2014
    Location:
    Terra Prime, Sol System
    Pretty much I agree with that. I wish we could have seen more of that crew.

    For the one season I would have the Klingons and the Federation in open war. Always going back to the Organian ceasefire is so simplistic. This would also give a more plausible background for Kor's memories and would add gravity to the events of the films as well. I mean why are they calling Kirk the "greatest warrior in the galaxy" if he never took part in fighting anything except one Romulan ship and a bunch of space creatures?
     
  12. Commishsleer

    Commishsleer Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2013
    Location:
    Backwaters of Australia
    I wouldn't really change anything or otherwise TOS wouldn't be the legendary thing that it is.
    Maybe I would take out a few "I'm frightened"s by Uhura.
    And maybe replace a few inconsequential male/Captains/Admirals/goldshirts with woman.
    Some male costume changes.
    OK I'm on a roll now:
    Just take out the zombie Spock bit in Spock's Brain.
    Get rid of "Mark of Gideon"
    Change some dialog in "Cloud Minders" and "That Which Survives" and the last line in "Turnabout Intruder"
     
  13. Hypaspist

    Hypaspist Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2014
    Location:
    Terra Prime, Sol System
    Spock's Brain was the genesis of the Borg oh my!
     
  14. Bixby

    Bixby Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Location:
    Canada
    Space: 1999 is more inspired by 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY and the only influence by the 70s I can see was in the costumes (bell-bottom pants and earthy colour-schemes), while GALACTICA and BUCK ROGERS goes for Star Wars humour but full-on disco influence, especially the music score and costuming (cue Buck's tight pants and chest-baring ways).

    I shudder to think if Roddenberry had gone with PHASE 2 as a tv series, he likely would have embraced the cheesiness of BUCK the series, electronic keyboard scores instead of full orchestras, video effects instead of proper models. Don't think it would have been as appalling as season 2 of BUCK with the sleep-inducing HAWK character.
     
  15. ssosmcin

    ssosmcin Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2002
    Location:
    ssosmcin
    To be fair to pool ol' Hawk, once he was introduced, they did nothing with him. The season premiere where he was presented was pretty damned good, probably the best episode of the series in my view. The actor was great and his backstory was very well done. However, as soon as that was done, he just slipped right into being Buck's Bestest Buddy, smiling, making asides, losing his edge totally and "going on patrol" to make room for more Gil Garard.

    A fine character but never utilized. I also really enjoyed the series as a whole, so I'm probably biased. The music, which has just been released on CD, was actually pretty excellent. But that's just me...
     
  16. BillJ

    BillJ Canon Warrior Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2001
    Location:
    Escaped from Trumpistan
    I'm rewatching the original Battlestar Galactica and am finding it much more interesting and fun than the Ron Moore existential circlejerk.
     
  17. EnriqueH

    EnriqueH Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2014
    Location:
    Miami
    Hey, hey, hey, why are we knocking 70s fashions?

    I *love* that 70s Star Wars, Buck Rogers, BSG look!!!

    All the MORE reason to have wanted a Star Trek Phase II!!!
     
  18. TREK_GOD_1

    TREK_GOD_1 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    May 24, 2006
    Location:
    Escaped from Delta Vega
    I'm not sure about that. 1970s Roddenberry was a different writer by that time, and fully believed in his preaching from the post-TOS/TAS convention pulpit. That means much of the stale "utopia" feel you would eventually see in TNG's 1st season, would have launched in Phase II.
     
  19. BillJ

    BillJ Canon Warrior Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2001
    Location:
    Escaped from Trumpistan
    That would've been okay because I loved the characters. :techman:
     
  20. Warped9

    Warped9 Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2003
    Location:
    Brockville, Ontario, Canada
    :rolleyes: She said it ONCE ("Plato's Stepchildren") and maybe showed it one other time ("Mirror, Mirror"). Even Kirk said it once ("Miri").